This is no honeymoon, the American “left” will never recover from the Harris/Walz combo; every major base of support (demographic/economic) is covered; Black woman with a jovial heartlandish white man standing behind her is the universal password for the legendary “competent American fascism” software update leftists have been prophesying.
They got this shit locked for at least eight years, Walz is suburbanite catnip and Harris has the identity libs eating out her hands, along with big tech, wallstreet, and the zionist lobby who are now methodically eliminating the last holdouts of the post-2016 nascent left movement
There is no credible avenue of leverage here, the libs can effectively respond to any leftist utterance with accusations of racism, misogyny, and purity testing and it will stick. Already we have most liberals being one rhetorical step away from defending Walz unleashing the National Guard on BLM protesters
There is no point in engaging with domestic national politics at this current time, the ball is firmly overseas
The only series of events that can undermine this new DNC paradigm is Israel blowing up the world and the US mobilizing to save it. Not even the collapse of Ukraine can dent it now, since that was “Biden’s project”
Hate to say it, but the DNC won a firm generational victory
You miss one important thing. Material conditions will continue to get worse. We are past the point where we can have another Obama pretending everything is just fine while the vast majority can’t afford shit. It’s not 2008 anymore, they can’t pretend the economic shit will get better because people already have 16 years of the opposite.
The damage is done, there is no recovery for them. They will win this election, but people will still be poor and angry, the US economy will still be crumbing and China will continue to improve. Something will have to give.
Yeah and also Harris is more Selina Myers than Obama, I’m not convinced she can even beat Trump, but people will quickly get sick of her if she does. She’s having a burst of support only in relation to replacing Genocide Joe’s doomed campaign
I’m pretty sure a ham sandwich with a bit of mold on the corner could beat Trump. Hillary and Mr Genocide are some of the only people who could lose to him.
Yeah I agree. Trump has his rabid base of support (around 35% or so). But outside of that, he’s really a pretty weak candidate.
That’s all true, but my point is that their victory will deradicalize people away from leftism and socialism and instead radicalize them toward the competent fascism the DNC now represents even as it makes them poorer, something will give but the potential of a countervailing force emerging domestically has been foreclosed for at least a decade, unless something major happens overseas
I’m pretty much just copinly admiring the engineering quality of the off-ramp the dems built overnight on the highway leading toward worse conditions
I don’t know about that. The things you list going for Kamala and Waltz work electorally, but elections are short and the intervening years are long. Will people give a shit that a #Blackwoman is presiding over the next energy shock? Will folksy Tim win over anybody as Blackrock continues to become the works largest landlord and jacks up rent across the country? Will food inflation and deteriorating health systems go unnoticed because the political leaders can string 4 cogent words together? I doubt it. I think the Democrats have tripped into an electoral win, but as committed neo-liberals they’ll still fall face first over every hurdle of actual governance. Their ideology contains no solutions: everything will get worse and the proles are supposed to be grateful for it. That’s just not a message with staying power.
Agree with the sentiment, but maybe 2008 is a bad example to use for ”the economic shit will get better”
Nono, I meant it’s a good example of it not getting better.
Yeah, I see what you meant now.
I’d also say the optimism of the Obama getting elected era is long gone, but that might be just a me thing, because I see these libs everywhere online acting like it’s still the end of history.
Those libs are a minority. Most people are at least aware that shit sucks, even if they don’t want to admit it.
As long as they can get away with blaming Republicans or a rotating villain for obstruction the Dems won’t have to do shit. “Progressive” Dems were calling Obama out for not doing things he could get away with like firing people and executive orders and libs were still defending him. Libs happily defended his Grand Bargain where he volunteered to cut Social Security payments. There’s a lot more people radicalized now to be sure, but the Dems still have a pretty good stranglehold on people’s vision of what’s possible.