The following is intended to be read in a neutral tone: I don’t understand why quotes are around “anti-progress” since I did not use those words in my original post which you are responding to. I am unsure what part of my post you’re responding to. I hope you don’t think I was calling you a luddite. I wasn’t calling you a luddite: Which I don’t view as a pejorative in any case. I was pointing out that the luddites had a very good reason to be mad and their methods proved ineffective. They weren’t against “progress” they were against losing their jobs. They lost their jobs because of capitalism, not machinery. I don’t view technology as some kind of moral or ethical progress. I just think it’s impossible to make everyone stop using a tool once it has been invented. It’s “pandora’s box”. The only way technology stops getting used is if the means of producing it dry up.

ok, that wasnt clear. I was having some other shit going on (feel free to look at my other comments today) when replying so I might have become defensive.

I’m not defeatist, I just think we should organize against the mode of production and not the means of production. I thought that was clear in my original post.

ok, my intention was to point the misuse of the means of production in light-hearted way (though I am sceptical about positive use cases for “AI”, I am not super serious on here bc I dont think one can have deep theory convos on most of this online stuff. When you say it like this, I agree and I am glad we could reach an understanding