At the start of the SMO, I personally took the line that the DSA IC, Communist Party of Australia, and others took: this invasion is a hostile act and an escalation. But this is also a civil war that has been going on for 8 years now, and the origin is steeped in US/EU/NATO meddling. We would have never gotten to this point without western powers doing their standard imperialist thing and trying to bring Ukraine into their orbit just as a way to encircle Russia, which of course Russia is going to respond to. It’s just thinking dialectically. guess you could say I was a lot more neutral back then? I don’t know I wasn’t really for or against any one side, I just felt that this was the natural consequence of Western actions for 8 years.
But then over time, NATO has inserted themselves much more actively and has turned this into a de facto NATO versus Russia war. I see NATO as the much bigger threat to the world and frankly more evil, at least in terms of fucking with other countries. I want to see NATO eat shit.
But also pragmatically, Ukraine will not win this war. There is NO path to victory outside of starting WW3. I do not want one more Ukrainian or Russian to die in this. If you think NATO actually cares about Ukrainian lives then you are mistaken. If you think NATO even cares about an Ukraine win then you are also mistaken. NATO is only involved because they think they can weaken Russia geopolitically and militarily by continuing the fight. NATO is more than happy to fight this thing to the last Ukrainian.
Ukraine will lose the territory Russia occupies and will have to give guarantees about not aligning militarily with the west in the future. You may not like that outcome but that is reality.
At the start of the SMO, I personally took the line that the DSA IC, Communist Party of Australia, and others took: this invasion is a hostile act and an escalation. But this is also a civil war that has been going on for 8 years now, and the origin is steeped in US/EU/NATO meddling. We would have never gotten to this point without western powers doing their standard imperialist thing and trying to bring Ukraine into their orbit just as a way to encircle Russia, which of course Russia is going to respond to. It’s just thinking dialectically. guess you could say I was a lot more neutral back then? I don’t know I wasn’t really for or against any one side, I just felt that this was the natural consequence of Western actions for 8 years.
But then over time, NATO has inserted themselves much more actively and has turned this into a de facto NATO versus Russia war. I see NATO as the much bigger threat to the world and frankly more evil, at least in terms of fucking with other countries. I want to see NATO eat shit.
But also pragmatically, Ukraine will not win this war. There is NO path to victory outside of starting WW3. I do not want one more Ukrainian or Russian to die in this. If you think NATO actually cares about Ukrainian lives then you are mistaken. If you think NATO even cares about an Ukraine win then you are also mistaken. NATO is only involved because they think they can weaken Russia geopolitically and militarily by continuing the fight. NATO is more than happy to fight this thing to the last Ukrainian.
Ukraine will lose the territory Russia occupies and will have to give guarantees about not aligning militarily with the west in the future. You may not like that outcome but that is reality.
I’d say it is a civil war that goes for 33 years like warlord era in China. People just pretend that those warlords are independent states.