Hell yeah!

Watch the whole clip, everyone!

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    He is indeed a representative of the party.

    I don’t think he said that we should support a genocide. I’ve talked with him a few times. He is very much against the genocide.

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      Then why did he say to support the guy who is funding and supporting the genocide? Why did he condemn the victims of the genocide?

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        He did not condemn the victims of the genocide. We are anti-genocide, especially against the genocide of the Palestinians.

        And Joe Sims does not support Biden. He is trying to “block” Trump and prevent another Reagan, which he lived through.

        We’ve actually been gaining new applications since the start of the convention.

        I hope that you will at least consider the other side of the story here.

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          He is trying to “block” Trump and prevent another Reagan, which he lived through.

          Reagan is literally to Biden’s left on the genocide. Reagan actually picked up the phone, told the Israelis they were conducting a holocaust, and they stopped.

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            I don’t think Biden has full control over the Israelis in this case, though he could do much more than what he’s doing, but I think that Trump would just double-down on the genocide and make it harder to organize in the United States with Project 2025.

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              I’m sorry, this is a dodge. You defended Sims by claiming he’s trying to prevent Reagan, who did more with one single phone call than Joe Biden has done in nine months of murder. Reagan would be an improvement over Biden as regards Gaza, full stop.

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          If you were anti genocide then why would you support the guy doing the genocide?

          Also you clearly didn’t even read the linked article where the dude blames the Palestinians for what’s going on right now.

          Also I am not going to try to block Trump at the cost of THE ENTIRE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. Sure we shouldn’t want Trump to be president but more than that I don’t want to support am ongoing genocide.

          I understand pragmatism I really do but you absolutely need to check yourself when your pragmatism comes at the cost of AN ENTIRE ETHNIC GROUP

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            We do not support the person doing the genocide. We are trying to block Trump.

            Also, I don’t think he blamed the Palestinians.

            And voting for Biden is not supporting a genocide, though I won’t vote for Biden.

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                  Yes, they will support someone doing a genocide to block trump. You have some kind of weird contradiction that you can’t seem to recognize where you think you can support Biden as an act against Trump while selectively not supporting Biden’s genocide.

                  This is not possible. You can’t have it both ways.

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                    Trump will do the genocide as well and probably double-down. We are not supporting Biden.

                    We have a gun pressed to our heads and we need to maintain relations with activist groups on the ground are Democratic-aligned or that tend to vote Democrat.

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                By supporting Democrats at the local level and municipalities and voting for Biden, but that’s up to the individual members and districts; at the end of the day, it’s basically just a suggestion, and many I know won’t even vote for Biden (many will, of course, but you get the point).