• Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Your definition of “legitimate casino” excludes any casinos that rig games.

    All businesses with financial operations are exposed to money laundering to some degree.

    Regulations increase costs to implement. Only “legitimate casinos” fight them.

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      1 month ago

      It’s YOUR definition ahahah I literally took what you said and I am asking a question.

      YOU said, legitimate + fake = online. I asked to which you applied the answer and you said online. Now you are saying it doesn’t?

      So, do we agree that legitimate casinos don’t rig games?

      Also, you mentioned taking a cut to help laundering money, now you are retracting saying “are exposed”. No dude, taking a cut has intentionality behind, being exposed is a natural risk for any business which moves money. You claimed the first.

      So, one last time:

      • do legitimate casinos rig games?
      • do legitimate casinos help laundering money?
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        It’s YOUR definition

        Nope. It’s you who is obsessed with separation of “legitimate casinos”.

        YOU said, legitimate + fake = online. I asked to which you applied the answer and you said online.

        Correct

        Now you are saying it doesn’t?

        Incorrect.

        So, do we agree that legitimate casinos don’t rig games?

        You have defined legitimate casinos as ones that don’t rig games.

        Also, you mentioned taking a cut to help laundering money,

        Incorrect. I said casinos are used to launder money.

        now you are retracting saying “are exposed”.

        No retraction necessary.

        • do legitimate casinos rig games?

        Online casinos rig games. You have defined legitimate casinos as ones that don’t rig games. A normal internet user cannot tell the difference.

        • do legitimate casinos help laundering money?

        Yes. Not necessarily knowingly. Income from internet gambling is tainted.

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          1 month ago

          Your quote:

          Here’s the definition I’m happy with. Legitimate casinos = established businesses in the casino industry Fake casinos = scammers Online casinos = legitimate casinos + fake casinos

          You forgot already? A link to your own comment.

          You have defined legitimate casinos as ones that don’t rig games.

          I didn’t define shit, you defined legitimate casino as a partition of online casino.

          Look what triple jump you are making to avoid saying a very simple thing: legitimate casinos, defined as YOU did (established businesses in the casino industry) don’t rig games. All because you can’t admit to be wrong :)

          So, I will ask once again:

          • do legitimate casinos, as in YOUR definition, rig games, according to you?

          Yes or no question.


          Yes. Not necessarily knowingly. Income from internet gambling is tainted.

          I would argue with this point, but I won’t. It doesn’t matter, I accept the theoretical possibility of money laundering. For some reason I was mistakenly taking the top comment of this thread as your comment. I even quoted it several times and you didn’t note that that’s not your comment… my bad.

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            1 month ago

            I didn’t define shit

            Here is your definition (not mine) where you separate “legitimate businesses” from “scam organizations”

            So when I talk about online casinos, I refer to the legitimate businesses that are gambling businesses, not scam organizations that happen to use gambling as their cover

            I’m saying this line is not clear cut, particularly for the average Internet user. A yes/no answer is not possible.

            I was mistakenly taking the top comment of this thread as your comment.

            Easily done. Thanks for clarifying.

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              Yes, but I am asking to answer according to your own definition! I specified it, I quotes it, I wrote YOUR in caps, I can’t add flashing lights or I would.

              You provided a definition, I am asking a simple question with that definition in mind.

              According to YOUR definition, do legitimate casinos rig games?

              Come on, how many more comments do you need to answer this simple query?

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                  1 month ago

                  I give up. You refuse to engage in good faith.

                  What user can tell is irrelevant, we are talking about your “taxonomy” and the properties that carries being in one or other category.

                  You might not be able to distinguish a legitimate casinos by a fake one, but if in your opinion legitimate ones also rig games, this is irrelevant. If they don’t, then what users can tell is a completely separate problem.

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                    we are talking about your “taxonomy”

                    No. That’s what you are trying to forum slide to.

                    I’m sticking to the point that online casinos are scammy, including legitimate, regulated operators.

                    You might not be able to distinguish a legitimate casinos by a fake one,

                    Not just me. Any average Joe.

                    but if in your opinion legitimate ones also rig games, this is irrelevant.

                    Your doggedness for wanting agreement that some casino games may not be rigged is impressive

                    what users can tell is a completely separate problem.

                    But a problem very much related to “what’s wrong with online casinos”.