Ok so what I suppose you would call an ā€œelder zoomerā€ or whatever, born in the span of '98-'02, entering my mid-20s. Get all your geriatric chomsky emotes out of your systems, itā€™s fine. My parents were born in '71 and '72 respectively, meaning they just entered their 50s. My dad has always been a computer guy, played dnd back in the 80s, introduced me and my brother to pirating media growing up, etc. Basically, heā€™s a nerd. Heā€™s always been a nerd. He also holds some weird contradictory views ranging from very based (like pirating and hating the US) to very chuddy but thatā€™s unrelated for now.

My point is, my dad isnā€™t some tech-illiterate boomer who hates ā€œthe iphones and nintendosā€ or whatever. Despite this, heā€™s completely, and I mean completely oblivious to any and all internet culture. Hell, my mom runs circles around him in terms of being able to understand memes and me and my brother have even gotten her to start using ā€œcopiumā€ correctly to my uncle (which is hilarious but also resulted in me having to explain to my extended family what it means during christmas dinner). Itā€™s not like my dad didnā€™t get on the internet when it first came around, he was a super early adopter of both cellphones and the internet. I also know that he has spent a not-insignificant amount of time on various hobby forums and so on. He still doesnā€™t know what a ā€œmemeā€ is though, he sends me and my brother ā€œfunny picturesā€ which are all some rank-ass 2012 facebook-funny-page tier shit that always manages to be a bit problematic no matter how innocent the subject matter seems.

Heā€™s also incredibly thin-skinned online. Heā€™s tried playing online games because, well, he like playing games! He just canā€™t though; he gets so incredibly offended over any and all toxicity (yes toxicity is bad but heā€™s a grown-ass white cishet male heā€™s not exactly being targeted with violent slurs) that it would probably be incredibly humorous as an outsider.

His relationship to media online is also quite interesting. Heā€™s fully aware of youtube, with the caveat that to him itā€™s still just the site where you ā€œgo to find a grainy video of some indian with a thick accent to fix an obscure tech problemā€ (paraphrased from him) or where you watch uploads of live concerts or clips from TV shows. Basically any video uploaded after 2010 doesnā€™t exist to him. Youtube is just for home-video amateurs, thereā€™s no artistic merit in it, ā€œwhy would you ever watch someone else play a game? are you stupidā€-type-beat, etc. I think if I showed him something like a Jacob Geller essay he would just straight up not get it.

The same goes for video games. While he plays plenty of newer games, he thinks of all games as being either competitive match-based PvP games like counter strike or single player experiences where you play from the start to the end once and then the game is done. Iā€™ve tried so many times to explain to him that the reason ESO is so weird coming from skyrim is that itā€™s an MMO, and MMOs are fundamentally different. He has no concept of roguelikes or other games that deviate from this standard form of a ā€œcinematicā€ single-player experience. Just recently he started playing 7 Days to Die and it has been blowing his mind seeing this ā€œsuper innovative gameplay loopā€, but instead of contextualizing it in terms of other survival-crafty games, he thinks itā€™s cool because ā€œitā€™s just like Fallout with the scavengingā€

Idk people I donā€™t really have a big point to make here at the end. I love my dad even if our relationship is a bit strained, and the stuff I bring up here are not meant to be specific to him. My mom is the same minus the video games in many ways (not understanding that online videos are more than just charlie bit my finger etc). Iā€™m also aware that framing it as a generational thing is a bit unhelpful and all that, but what can you do.

Do you people have similar stories with tech-literate people who are somehow completely out of touch in terms of internet culture? Itā€™s somehow fascinating to me, and I think maybe talking about it could help me communicate with my parents about it better.

  • Feinsteins_Ghost [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Sounds like me, TBH. Aside from the g*mes.

    Born in 78. Raised on apple 2e and 286 clones. Built my first pc when i was 10 from scrap parts donated by my dads work (he worked for Uncle Sam as a civvie contractor).

    Internet culture? Wtf is that? I had a facebook account for three days when they first dropped the .edu requirement. Deleted it. Never had insty, tiktok, etc. My YT feed is remarkably nonpolitical. It is about 99% plumbing/vehicle teardowns/technical in nature. Ive never watched people play game on twitch. I know it exists, but it isnā€™t something i do.

    For me? Theres a cut off point where i know the shit exists, i just dgaf about it. My ā€˜onlineā€™ life consists of this place, and this place alone tbh. I browse reddit, but i dont have an account and make no posts there. I use it mostly for the technical knowledge for my stupid hobbies like sewing, and hammock making and how to make whoopie slings for said hammocks.

    Your dad and i are just a few years apart in age, and aside from this den of iniquity, probably pretty damn similar. I guess it is age. You just reach a point where some shit doesnt really matter, and the shit you grew up on/are familiar with is how you look at life.

    Hows his music collection? Anything modern, or mostly older stuff? I listen to some new shit, mostly bluegrass, but by and large, everything i listen to comes from a certain time frame.

    That probably doesnt answer fuck-all, but your pop isnt alone.