About him as a person, his historical conditions, his life, his loved ones. Does anyone have any favorite biographies or even just passages from primary or secondary sources? Alternatively, if anyone has the time, what do you think is most important or interesting to understand about Karl Marx as a person, or perhaps about the historical context he lived in?

  • KimJongFun [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    "An account by Liebknecht of a smashing drunken evening in London town, written some 40 years after the event…

    One evening, Edgar Bauer, acquainted with Marx from their Berlin time and then not yet his personal enemy […], had come to town from his hermitage in Highgate for the purpose of “making a beer trip.” The problem was to “take something” in every saloon between Oxford Street and Hampstead Road – making the something a very difficult task, even by confining yourself to a minimum, considering the enormous number of saloons in that part of the city. But we went to work undaunted and managed to reach the end of Tottenham Court Road without accident.

    There loud singing issued from a public house; we entered and learned that a club of Odd Fellows were celebrating a festival. We met some of the men belonging to the “party,” and they at once invited us “foreigners” with truly English hospitality to go with them into one of the rooms. We followed them in the best of spirits, and the conversation naturally turned to politics – we had been easily recognised as Germany fugitives; and the Englishmen, good old-fashioned people, who wanted to amuse us a little, considered it their duty to revile thoroughly the German princes and the Russian nobles. By “Russian” they meant Prussian nobles. Russia and Prussia are frequently confounded in England, and not alone of account of their similarity of name. For a while, everything went smoothly. We had to drink many healths and to bring out and listen to many a toast.

    Then the unexpected suddenly happened… Edgar Bauer, hurt by some chance remark, turned the tables and ridiculed the English snobs. Marx launched an enthusiastic eulogy on German science and music – no other country, he said, would have been capable of producing such masters of music as Beethoven, Mozart, Haendel and Haydn, and the Englishmen who had no music were in reality far below the Germans who had been prevented hitherto only by the miserable political and economic conditions from accomplishing any great practical work, but who would yet outclass all other nations. So fluently I have never heard him speak English.

    For my part, I demonstrated in drastic words that the political conditions in England were not a bit better than in Germany [… ] the only difference being that we Germans knew our public affairs were miserable, while the Englishmen did not know it, whence it were apparent that we surpassed the Englishmen in political intelligence.

    The brows of our hosts began to cloud […]; and when Edgar Bauer brought up still heavier guns and began to allude to the English cant, then a low “damned foreigners!” issued from the company, soon followed by louder repetitions. Threatening words were spoken, the brains began to be heated, fists were brandished in the air and – we were sensible enough to choose the better part of valor and managed to effect, not wholly without difficulty, a passably dignified retreat.

    Now we had enough of our “beer trip” for the time being, and in order to cool our heated blood, we started on a double quick march, until Edgar Bauer stumbled over some paving stones. “Hurrah, an idea!” And in memory of mad student pranks he picked up a stone, and Clash! Clatter! a gas lantern went flying into splinters. Nonsense is contagious – Marx and I did not stay behind, and we broke four or five street lamps – it was, perhaps, 2 o’clock in the morning and the streets were deserted in consequence. But the noise nevertheless attracted the attention of a policeman who with quick resolution gave the signal to his colleagues on the same beat. And immediately countersignals were given. The position became critical.

    Happily we took in the situation at a glance; and happily we knew the locality. We raced ahead, three or four policemen some distance behind us. Marx showed an activity that I should not have attributed to him. And after the wild chase had lasted some minutes, we succeeded in turning into a side street and there running through an alley – a back yard between two streets – whence we came behind the policemen who lost the trail. Now we were safe. They did not have our description and we arrived at our homes without further adventures."

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Some of my favorite anecdotes about Marx:

    • Named all his daughters Jenny, after their mother
    • Broke a bunch of street lamps one drunken night in London in a rowdy fit, then hid from the police in an alleyway
    • Got into a duel as a university student with a Prussian soldier. Came away with a scar above his eye.
    • His wife one time sold his pants for food
    • One time a Prussian cop went to the Marx household as part of an investigation, but had to leave because the cigar smoke was so thick
    • Had he and his wife lived a bit longer, and were in better health, Marx would have probably published a book on calculus. He was very interested in mathematics towards the end of his life, particularly differential and integral calculus.
    • Had a thing for nicknames. His closest friends called him Mohr (he had a darker complexion than most Germans). His kids called him Nick or Charlie. He frequently gave other people nicknames too. My favorite is he gave the name ‘Jollymeier’ to Carl Schorlemmer, Marx’s friend and one of the founders of organic chemistry.
    • He had a wide and varied social life, despite being so poor and of ill-health. He made friends easily. People were always coming and going in his house or staying over, including August Willich, who’d serve as a Union general in the American civil war
    • One of the people who attended Marx’s funeral was Wilhelm Liebknecht, father of Karl Liebknecht, who’d go on to found the Spartacus League with Rosa Luxemburg.
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    Apparently he couldn’t leave the house at times because his wife, Jenny, had pawned his trousers. I guess it was typical back then to only have one pair of pants per household?

    • Mardoniush [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      It wasn’t, but Marx was very poor, partially because he couldn’t write consistently for long periods and instead did so in short, manic bursts.

      Hard to say now but he may have had ADHD or something similar.