28-Year-Old Dutch Woman to Legally End Her Life in May.

A Dutch woman has decided to legally end her life citing her struggles with crippling depression and autism, according to a report. Zoraya ter Beek, a 28-year-old physically healthy, who lives in a small village in the Netherlands near the German border, is slated to be euthanised in May, according to the New York Post (NYP).

The Dutch woman said she decided to be euthanised after her doctors told her nothing more could be done to improve her condition.

Didn’t we use to try to prevent people who were depressed from committing suicide?

The World has turned into a Monty Python skit.

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    They didn’t force her. They brought it up as a treatment recommendation and she accepted. Very different.

    They coerced her. To use the analogy of the military recruiter, they would also say they don’t force anyone to join the military, they’d say they simply establish recruiting centres in poor neighbourhoods, offer military service and people accept it. But we know they are coercing people to join. These recruiters don’t offer real solutions to poverty, much like the psychiatrists who offer suicide don’t offer real solutions for depression.

    As someone who has depression, my condition only really began to improve when I fully embraced suicide as a possibility.

    For me it was opposite, only once it was removed as a possibility could changes be made. When it was a possibility, I lived as though every week/month was my last.

    by accepting it I found I could always escape a bad situation, if not by wit, then by gun.

    And I had to realise that I couldn’t use it as an escape. Like a cornered animal, with nowhere to run, the only option is to resist and fight against whatever put one in the position where they feel like they should end it all.

    spoiler

    I also got a cat (to take care of, to be responsible for), but that’s offtopic.

    I’m arguing that only in recognizing and engaging with all aspects of oneself and ones own mental state in an honest fashion can a person actually find real healing and that can be helped along by a society that doesn’t try to dictate your actions

    Well yeah, healing… not suicide. Because that isn’t healing. To use a platitude: it’s a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Conditions can be changed, but suicide can’t be reversed.

    but encourages honest self reflection and introspection without judgment. And I personally believe that is a good thing.

    I’m not arguing against self-reflection, introspection and having an honest conversation with yourself about suicide. I’m arguing against of actually committing suicide. To quote a cliché, turn that gun onto the capitalists who put you in that position. You used the word “prey”, predators prey on prey animals. It is prey animals who give up when cornered. We call capitalism lredatory because it preys on people. We have the ability to choose whether we’re going to allow capitalism to prey on us or if we’re going to fight, win or lose. That’s agency. That’s what it comes down to: one can die by one’s own hand or one can die fighting for a better world. History remembers revolutionaries because they chose to do the latter.

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      For me by accepting that I can leave at any moment I became willing to live. Its easy to convince someone to die for a cause. If a revolution happened in my old mental state I would’ve charged blindly to my death just to achieve death. This would’ve put my comrades in danger. Now though, because my life is firmly in my hands I have no reason to charge blindly to death, if I want it I can simply take it for myself and someone threatening it is something I must fight against because I want the choice of whether I live or die to be up to myself and no one else. We have more than enough idiotic martyrs who died for nothing. We need revolutionaries who actually plan to exist after the fact. Even if they fail in revolting they still live so they can actually pass on knowledge to the next generation of revolutionaries instead of dying and abandoning us like previous generations of martyrs before. Look at Christianity for instance. It was suppressed for an extremely long time with many dying for practicing it. The ones who died didn’t save the religion though, its the ones who chose to maintain their beliefs but sacrifice publically to the Roman gods who lived. They are the real keepers of the faith who passed on the religion to the next generation. Ofcourse I dispise Christianity but we socialists can learn from this lesson from history. Those who die can only be remembered if someone lives to carry on. We shouldn’t throw away our lives lightly in the revolution. Fighting like a cornered animal means fighting without regard for oneself, fighting without regard for oneself leads to death. Are revolution for corpses is equally a failure as none at all.

      I’d argue that suicide is a permanent solution to a permanent problem. Depression doesn’t just go away. Its a permanent part of life. Only in accepting it can you live alongside it in a healthy manner in my experience. I’ll never not have depression, it can however be less emphasized. That is a far more achievable goal.

      Assuming one is a revolutionary your point at the end is correct but few people are communists. Its an obscure ideology hated by the majority of the world. If you want to he remembered in a positive light then communism is definitely not the ideology for you. Communists are either forgotten, hated, or distorted by history into liberals. All of which are quite terrible fates.

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        Its a permanent part of life. Only in accepting it can you live alongside it in a healthy manner in my experience.

        Well yeah, one accepts it by deciding to live with it.

        but few people are communists

        Hence the need for education and agitation.

        Communists are either forgotten, hated, or distorted by history

        In liberal countries at the moment, sure. But not everyone lives in the West. I’m sure they have different views of them in China, Vietnam, Cuba, DPRK, and so on.