HRT should not be required for competing in womens sports, the whole natural advantage argument does not justify excluding transwomen from sports even if it were true which it is not.
What do you mean? Without hrt, amab people definitely have an advantage over afab people in a lot of sports. Testosterone is a hell of a drug.
I heard that testosterone makes keeping muscle gains much easier? Important part here is that without testosterone the additional gains are very easy to lose. So prolonged HRT should clear the effects. Would definitely like to see more scientific studies on this.
I absolutely agree with you here. From what I remember, it’s about a year or two. I’m not even disagreeing that transwomen at all stages of transition should be allowed into women’s leagues, especially considering school sports.
without testosterone the additional gains are very easy to lose.
Maybe I’m misreading his comment, but it sounds to me like he’s saying transwomen with normal amab levels of T don’t have an advantage over cis women (as further evidenced by him wanting all sports to be coed in the future, implying that maybe even cis men don’t have natural advantages to women in some sports[?]). Which is just… really odd to me? Because amab levels of T definitely give someone an advantage over a cis woman.
It’s a tough pill to swallow for some who think the patriarchy is the only reason women don’t match the men in sprints. You’ve got people like Ira Murchison who was the fastest man in the world at 5’1. He would easily smoke even the best trained cis women at the same height and weight because of testosterone.
What do you mean? Without hrt, amab people definitely have an advantage over afab people in a lot of sports. Testosterone is a hell of a drug.
I heard that testosterone makes keeping muscle gains much easier? Important part here is that without testosterone the additional gains are very easy to lose. So prolonged HRT should clear the effects. Would definitely like to see more scientific studies on this.
I absolutely agree with you here. From what I remember, it’s about a year or two. I’m not even disagreeing that transwomen at all stages of transition should be allowed into women’s leagues, especially considering school sports.
Maybe I’m misreading his comment, but it sounds to me like he’s saying transwomen with normal amab levels of T don’t have an advantage over cis women (as further evidenced by him wanting all sports to be coed in the future, implying that maybe even cis men don’t have natural advantages to women in some sports[?]). Which is just… really odd to me? Because amab levels of T definitely give someone an advantage over a cis woman.
It’s a tough pill to swallow for some who think the patriarchy is the only reason women don’t match the men in sprints. You’ve got people like Ira Murchison who was the fastest man in the world at 5’1. He would easily smoke even the best trained cis women at the same height and weight because of testosterone.
Counter point, all cisgender sports participants are tested for doping in the same way that transgender sports participants are tested.
Who you compete with is based on the results.
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