• PaX [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      /r/nootropics: nerds who have convinced themselves they aren’t actually drug users when they’re using drugs. Their liver is shutting down from their “stack”

      /r/phenibut: dudes actually trying to live the sigma grindset fantasy and getting addicted

      /r/researchchems: all of the above minus the porn, and then some

      • LeylaLove [she/her, love/loves]@hexbear.net
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        Phenibut is the absolute worst addiction ever. The problem is taking it for a while sticks you in the good side of mania until one day you just wake up and you’re not on the good side of mania anymore. Also, I was a high dose user. Withdrawal lasted for MONTHS. I would rather put down opiates and benzos at the same time again than phenibut, it’s so bad it makes poly withdrawal sound desirable.

        Crazy that it’s left legal as an open secret among semi truck drivers.

        • PaX [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.net
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          I’ve had my issues with it as well agony-deep

          It’s just so cheap and available and takes away all my anxiety sooooo welll and makes me not care about all my issues

          Not worth the aftereffects though lol

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              Yeahhh, the motor impairment just isn’t there nearly as much compared to something like alcohol

              Not true of the fluorinated derivative 4-fluorophenibut though lol, had to stop using that shit at work when I was in my using-drugs-to-cope-with-soul-destroying-retail-job era

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          How do you even get that deep? Tolerance builds up so fast I’d imagine you’d have to be taking it by the ounce after a while.

          • LeylaLove [she/her, love/loves]@hexbear.net
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            It builds up really fast, but it caps out too. Start off around 1.5gs a day and just slowly increase that dose until I had hit 4.5 grams a day and stayed there until I got off. The real issue with it is that Phenibut is the best drug for poly drug use, so once you hit that wall you start using a lot of other shit that makes it more dangerous.