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  • TurboWafflz@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    You do realize that people with celiac disease aren’t just choosing to not eat gluten right?

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      9 months ago

      True, but those are not the people the men’s is making fun of. It makes fun of perfectly healthy people who decide they need gluten free everything because they heard that gluten is bad and they can’t do any research on how and why. Same with vegans who are only vegan because it’s trendy (and who probably cheat every other meal because a vegan lifestyle actually requires a fair amount of effort and learning about nutrition).

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        9 months ago

        a vegan lifestyle actually requires a fair amount of effort and learning about nutrition

        I was actually surprised by how little effort it really took? Like replace butter with margarine, slave milk with oatmilk and, unless you’re baking, eggs aren’t actually that important.

        The rest is just choosing different meals. Roasted vegetables, fried rice, bulgur, beans etc. instead of steak or sausages or what have you. Get some starchy stuff, some veggy stuff, some proteiny stuff = heathy meal. Most nonvegans live less healthy than that. Then there really is only the B12 debate left, and if you want to err on the safe side just take some supplements. They’re really cheap.

        Sure, it wasn’t 0 effort, but it wasn’t exactly rocket science either. Just kind of look at what you’re eating, throw out the non-vegan stuff and go from there. If you have any qualms about the exploitation of beings with a consciousness, who can feel the pain and suffering when their kids are killed just give it a try.

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          9 months ago

          It’s actually not quite as easy, you do have to at least get a rough understanding of what you need and where to get it.

          Especially for women, iron deficiency is a real problem. For some reason, they lose a bunch of iron every month and that needs to be replaced. A lot of women are running low on iron even with “conventional” diets, so dumping all the iron rich animal products can be a problem.

          It’s far from impossible, but you have to educate yourself a bit about your needs.

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            9 months ago

            But thats true about nutrition in general. A lot of people have deficiencies without being vegan, this stereotype that veganism is somehow dangerous unless you know what you’re doing is just wrong. People need to be more educated about nutrition in general independently of veganism.

      • owatnext@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        a vegan lifestyle actually requires a fair amount of effort

        It isn’t that hard in most “well developed” (sorry to use that term) places. Sure, you have to look at some nutrition labels and maybe take a B vitamin, but it isn’t arduous. Took me next to no effort, but going from ~18 years vegetarian to a vegan diet wasn’t hard for me personally.

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      9 months ago

      The people being mocked are the ones who have made “gluten free” trendy and that labelling far less reliable for folks with celiac.

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        9 months ago

        On the contrary, since gluten-free food became trendy, there’s been more of it on offer, which is better people with coeliac disease. The problem arises when chefs and cooks start thinking gluten-intolerant people are asking for gluten-free food because it’s trendy, so they decide to just run the risk of poisoning someone because they think they know better. I used to have a chef like this, and he ended up poisoning someone. Massive removed, he was.

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        9 months ago

        Please inform yourself before diminishing others’ plights.

        Diarrhoea that is characteristic of coeliac disease is chronic, sometimes pale, of large volume, and abnormally foul in odor. Abdominal pain, cramping, bloating with abdominal distension (thought to be the result of fermentative production of bowel gas), and mouth ulcers[35] may be present.

        Coeliac disease leads to an increased risk of both adenocarcinoma and lymphoma of the small bowel

        Long-standing and untreated disease may lead to other complications, such as ulcerative jejunitis (ulcer formation of the small bowel) and stricturing (narrowing as a result of scarring with obstruction of the bowel).

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease

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        9 months ago

        Have you ever had gluten free pastry?

        Yes, I’ve had gluten-free pastries before. My friend has Celiac and can’t consume gluten due to possible intestinal damage.

        He has taken me to delicious gluten-free bakeries to get ice cream cookie sandwiches, pumpkin bread, brownies, garlic parmesan bread, quiche, meat handpies, etc

        Just because you had bad ones doesn’t mean they are all bad. Same goes with other food.

        I mean you can choose to power through it. I’d sooner have a windy, achy gut than eat a gluten-free yum yum.

        Well, if you had celiac disease, good luck living with permanent damage to your intestinal villi.

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        9 months ago

        Are you seriously comparing devastating and life threatening diseases and bodily waste to food that thousands of people eat every day without complaint?