come chat and vibe and vent. hows the first week into black history month treating you? how are you celebrating/ learning? any cool black history info that you wish was more well known?
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is anyone is just so fucking done with the children of immigrants making fun of their parent? like theres a whole genre of content online of poc kids making deeply racist jokes bout their own parents. mocking their accents, complaining about their English, making jokes defending beating children, getting on fucking tv to defend these obvious racist jokes with. “im not making fun of blank, im mocking my parents who happen to be just lazy caricatures” and “how can i be racist aganist my own race?” while putting on modern day minstrel shows. or worst, irl talking shit about them right in front of them because they dont speak English. I hope that white approval was worth it scumbags.
It started off innocent but, like most fun internet trends, quickly became self-hating and cruel. The videos I hate most are the ones that portray abuse as cultural traditions to be proud of. Chancla memes turned into weird poc feeling superior for being violently abused by their immigrant parents and/or having the media portray their cultures as inherently violent. I get so pissed off when they conflate white American culture with softness and overly doting families because (a) it’s actually super dysfunctional and not at all kind nor healthy, (b) abuse exists in every culture and © no parent of any group should be beating their kids.
Yes, everyone I know who consumes content like that gives the vibes that they hate the place that they and I grew up. They only moderately tolerate it for the potential in their careerism.
There is a line between sharing and discussing the shared experiences of children of immigrants and being racist, and it is often crossed. It isn’t for me to police it for other groups. But there’s a difference between discussing the awkwardness of attending your parents immigration process as a translator, and doing minstrel bits about the way your parents say certain words.
Indeed.
At times, people like Korean comic et Uncle Roger need to be detained and sent for a criticism session…
When im in a racist accent competition and an asian-diaspora “comedian” enters
Honestly, a lot of EM and BIPOC are racist against other EM and BIPOC.
Edited (I just didn’t know what to write at the time):
But yeah, BIPOC can be colorist and discriminatory, if not racist against other people and their own kind…
However, I would say it’s not to the same extent as white ppl now
Oh, I know you deleted this comment, but I hope I didn’t offend.
I felt I was speaking to a very real reality that I encountered in school and life, that other non-white people can be racist or xenophobic against each other.
But I don’t mean to say white supremacy, for example, isn’t a very real thing. It arguably causes racism to spread among other, well, races.
Nah, it’s cool. I just didn’t know what to say…
Fair, fair.
That shit is so gross. I don’t want to feel too old, but the trend of posting embarrassing parent stuff was unthinkable to me as a teenager. It was more for fear of my own embarrassment or stigmatization, but this seems so much more callous.
It’s disturbing to see kids and young adults incentivized to use their families for content like this. And they don’t even see it as opening the door for people to reproduce the racist behavior on them. They aren’t going to stop and wonder if you have an accent or belief system. Folks will just walk up and say vile racist shit.
lmao
My parents never hit me growing up, and my best friend (who was white) was routinely cursed out and spanked by his mom when I was at his house
There’s also that classic vid where the white kid’s dad runs over all his Xbox games with a lawnmower
To be honest I have a hard time imagining most Indian or East Asian parents actually hitting their children or freaking out especially hard
There’s also that classic vid where the white kid’s dad runs over all his Xbox games with a lawnmower
That reminds me
If the kkkrakkas do it, it’s just a minority
If the POCs do it, that’s their cultural oddity…
Also, I’m in the same boat as you as well… my parents weren’t exactly soft but they weren’t strict about doing this activity and that…
yeah, it’s dumb
I’m a child of immigrants and I’ve never done this.
Yeah, it sucks though.
I have been learning about black people in STEM on my own as I am a black people in STEM. There are tons and tons of black engineering big brains throughout history. I’m also encouraging my cousin in university to go botany. He told me likes organic chemistry and stuff but wants to transfer into computers because they are more profitable. Trying to convince him that he’s probably better-off learning the thing he actually likes rather than the thing he thinks will give him money. The real secret is he’s going to be broke either way, might well be broke and like the stuff you leaned about.
“Trying to convince him that he’s probably better-off learning the thing he actually likes rather than the thing he thinks will give him money.”
Yeah, and I think I have the same thing with my own brother. He’s likely Autistic like I am, but he hasn’t graduated college and he’s just past 30. He wants desperately to get a good job to live by, but I want to tell him to not be so hard on himself and try to find something he genuinely enjoys.
He wants desperately to get a good job to live by, but I want to tell him to not be so hard on himself and try to find something he genuinely enjoys.
I feel that man. I totally understand him trying to get some skills/a job that will provide that sort of material comfort and stability, but at the same time I think the sort of mental costs and taxation on the soul of a man. We all hate the fact we MUST have a job (thanks liberalism!), but there are certain small joys like being interested in the thing you do.
In my case for example, I’m a computer dork but I genuinely happen to like computers and shit. To be totally honest I’m very lucky “THE MARKET” deems it to worthy of a decent salary, however being honest I’d probably be a computer dork even if the the pay wasn’t as good as it is (it’s also on the decline with all these tech layoffs, and it’s getting hard to find a job in the tech industry). Again, it’s totally luck on my part, but I would encourage anyone to figure what they like first and focus their education on that. Some katz like computers, others maybe history, others maybe arts, whatever.
I totally understand folks concerned by their very real material needs, but I would imagine the toll on your heart and mind is very high learning something you don’t care about purely for stability
I think it’s being alienated from your own labor, like what Marx talked about in The German Ideology. I think that my brother should make a job of something that he likes to do, not be forced into doing a job that involves cyber-security.
I’m almost graduating (whereas he dropped out of college) so there’s that. I, like you, am also lucky that I’m interested in the topic that I’m majoring in. I just feel that my brother would have a better time if he could just do what he loves, but he feels now that he’s “wasted his life” (we grew up under an abusive father) and now he feels that he must do something that he doesn’t seem… all that interested in? I don’t know.
I think it’s being alienated from your own labor, like what Marx talked about in The German Ideology
That sounds about right to me.
Marx was right about labor and alienation. It sucks that we are all so removed from ourselves and each other just to get some coin.I just feel that my brother would have a better time if he could just do what he loves, but he feels now that he’s “wasted his life” (we grew up under an abusive father) and now he feels that he must do something that he doesn’t seem… all that interested in?
That’s rough man. I totally understand that sense of peril and doom. It’s really hard out here for people, and we have so little room to make mistakes, or just have time to figure shit out. We all feel like we gotta make a move and keep making moves to stay afloat. I feel for him.
I would encourage your brother to try and be kind to himself (which sounds corny I know 🌽) and give himself some grace. It’s hard out here, but I would also encourage katz like him to really value their happiness. I think we take it for granted in general, but his happiness is worth investing in, and doing something that doesn’t really fit for you can far more from you that that check can bring in.
I hope you can get through to him and help along in his journey. We are our brothers keepers (again a corny phrase and made worse by Obama stealing it, but it’s true)
The problem is that I have a younger brother who’s a total asshole and my older one (the one I was talking about previously) tries to befriend or keep in touch with my abusive father (who was divorced and so I live with my Mom). I think they’re both bad influences on my older brother, my father especially. My father even convinced my brother to drop out of college or at least put it into his mind that he couldn’t pass (due to him possibly being Autistic).
But yes, I will do what you say; I should try to encourage him to be kind to himself and maybe broach the subject about getting a diagnosis for Autism like I did, since that could make things clear to him.
I sort of like that my local grocery store has a “foreign” food section. I love my middle-mexi-thainese section. Why yes the couscous should be next to the sushi rice, and the salsa and siracha do go together.
The fact that it’s sandwiched between the spices and the sweet baking goods means they have made my shopping very easy.Western ‘multiculturalism’ in a liberal nutshell…
Of all the indignities of western capitalism, I can deal with the tahin being next to the tofu. Since I’m a monster who’ll eat my tofu scramble with hummus and chili oil.
This reminds me of this quote when Capitalism WAS historically progressive:
Specifically…
It has drowned the most heavenly ecstasies of religious fervour, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation.
But imagine that, but with food
For example, remember Italian cuisine… seems like it wasn’t ancient at all?
It’s almost funny that the creation of “Authentic Italian food” is contemporaneous with the futurist movement trying to get Italians to eat autoclaved rice with iron shavings and perfume
I remember this reddit post here about it… lmao
I kinda have no problem with multiculturalism; I want to be around as many cultures as possible, tbh.
I realize it kinda came off wrong, eh… I could explain later…
No, no, you’re fine, I figured that you were offhandedly broaching a complicated topic in the Western context.
When I think of multicultural, we also have to think of local-born multiculturalism countries like Yugoslavia (eg. Bosniak + Croat + Serb + Albanian) or Indonesia (eg. many indigenous ethnic groups et languages) as well,
So it’s bit funny to see multicultural to refer to such things in the west
Oh yeah, I think I know what you’re referring to.
The West (at least North America) is increasingly, at least, multi-racial.
But multicultural? Truly? Not sure about that one.
If anything, cultures get destroyed when they meet contact with American shores… at least, more often than not, it seems.
There’s nothing really done to preserve certain cultures or histories, etc.
That’s what I’m talking about, brother!
I’m getting better at talking about my experiences as a black person without shame. Or rather, I’m better seeing white discomfort and continuing with what I’m saying.
It’s realizing I’m not being the problem or trauma dumping or whatever. My experience is valid and just because someone else doesn’t understand that I need to consider more for my personal safety doesn’t make me a downer. I’m not the one who should feel bad when I bring up that something is racist.
It doesn’t feel like much to me, but I’m starting to realize it’s not me, it’s the white liberals in my life.
Oh yeah fuck their feelings tbh. These days I only hang with white people who aren’t fragile.
Yeah, don’t hang out with white people that bristle at you mentioning race.
White and non-white people should learn to get used to it at this point; it’s a huge topic and we don’t stop being Latino or Black or whatever at the drop of a hat.
Oh full stop. I’m just looking to move and never see these roommates/social circle again. I’m done navigating around their feelings on the meantime.
Talk about it whenever you want.
Nobody should stop you.
Edit: I mean, I’m supporting this of you, is what I’m trying to say.
Sorry if the original comment came off as rude; I mean that, as someone that is non-white or Black, you should definitely speak up whenever you want or need to as someone of your race and maybe give a perspective from that angle.
I wish more white people (and frankly immigrants like my parents) knew that part of white supremacy was preventing Black folks from preserving any sort of generational wealth as possible.
Things like the GI Joe bill weren’t just harmful because it denied loans to POC but that it prevented POC from being able to build wealth at the rate that their White peers were doing.
My parents have pretty much bought into the Black pathology racist myth because they think that the reason they were able to make it was because of their “hard work and focus on education.”
Racism in South Asian immigrant culture is such a disheartening problem.
Tbh, I’ve seen South Asian immigrants also deal with racism so it’s disheartening to always hear stuff like this.
Weren’t many South Asians, et, to an extension, East-Asians brought to the U.S.A and historically Great Britain and its colonies, specifically for their petty bourgeois, intelligentsia, et labor aristocrat/PMC status… which itself is a result of brain drain
I mean, it explains why a lot of them are more successful
That being said, it’s not a general rule
(I can find examples though)
Eg. Rishi Sunak, descended from an Indian PMC family that lived in British Africa, now is Prime Minister of Britain…
Feels like all my homies are staring down the barrel of existential life problems lately and it’s been… Draining. Between them and my coursework, it’s been near de-railing every other part of my social life this past couple months. I don’t want to be the one that people go to for advice and venting anymore; but. I can’t help but feel that’s a selfish thought when it’s my chosen kinfolk doing it.
Beyond the ‘feeling wrung-out’ bits though, been checking for the Lanier trailers lately. Hope it hits, with the duds we’ve been seeing lately. I have high hopes.
I’m on the up and up, but one thing that stops me in my tracks: seeing others in trouble and going through the same things I did indefinitely.
I don’t always know how to help…
Been getting hit a bit harder by my feelings of loneliness lately. Especially after I went to a sending off party for someone from work. Had an expectation that at least one or two of the people I talk with the most would be there and none showed up. It was a bit awkward. Not that it was that bad, but just felt a bit isolated.
Also just feel like I’m kind of just stuck in a routine all the time. Going out for a walk and taking some pictures kind helps just because it makes me think about something other than work, but I can’t help but think about how so much of my life right now evolves around my workplace including what social interactions I have. And it finally just hit me while I was out on a walk yesterday that I just feel alone. Its not even like I live alone. I still live with my parents and brother, but I don’t really have anyone that I feel comfortable talking about life with right now.
Do you have any IRL friends currently?
Frankly, I would suggest looking around on Facebook or Instagram and looking for meet-up groups and clubs, but that’s what I’m doing (with good success, it seems).
I have couple that I still text on occasion. The biggest problem is distance. They both live further away now so it’s more difficult to find the time to hang out. I’m might just do what you suggested.
Joining a club is probably what got me through college. I got to meet people that I got along with that I otherwise probably wouldn’t have met.
Keep in mind that there’s also meetup.com in addition to Facebook and Instagram. Bookclubs.com also has that and the klerb app (which I got recently) does the same thing that bookclubs.com does.
Oh yeah, one more thing: if you know any place that sells TTRPGs or board games, they likely have clubs for that too and you can find a group there to play with and socialize with.
I guess another idea is to use the Nextdoor app (which is growing in some popularity, last I checked) to find other groups near you depending on your interest.
Has Nextdoor gotten better? I used it in the past, but stopped because it was mostly just people being racist.
Oooohhhh
Yeah, yeah, it may depend on where you are. I think they also improved their TOS… for what that’s worth.
I use it because it can be genuinely useful and gives me a sense of the surrounding area, but of course, some of the worst people use it, ngl.
I just include it because some people I know have found luck with that app and it’s generally included as “useful apps that you can use to find or connect with other people” or the like so, yeah, take that for what you will, ig
glad its working!!!
Yeah, it was amazing how easy it was, at least for the time being.
I think not going on Facebook or Instagram for ideological reasons was a bad move on my part.
honestly yeah, i think a lot of us would benefit from being more connected to people in our communities and the reality of the situation is that these evil websites are incredibly useful for grass-touching. so happy to hear you are having succsess!
Yeah, a lot of people, especially compared to 10 years ago, have to use these websites one way or another; that’s why they should be expropriated into public utilities, at least eventually.
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Their attitudes is understandable yet still dickish, in a neighborhood without much of an atmosphere of security…
It’s not your fault, Copium…
i feel this! even small things are 100X more devastating when coming from another black person.
I like having friends from different cultures and ethnicity but…
I like to think that other Hispanic people got my back and understand some of the stuff I’m going through, you know?
Happy lunar new year folks
We all love our Zhong1guo2ren2, don’t we, fowks?
Now say that in Putonghua
Ogey… (Note: I tried google translate and a bit of research)
恭喜发财
gōng xǐ fā cái!
I just wanted to see what Latam folks think about the term “latinx” when it’s used in popular academic writing (i.e. textbooks). My NATO geography textbook uses latinx but I always feel iffy since English doesn’t have a concept of gendered nouns so “latino” or “latin american” or “latam” would also work. It’s gotten a lot more common recently I feel.
btw latinx is basically used as just “all people from south of the border” in my textbook, no mention of Caribbean islanders or Brazilians or indigenous societies.
I mean, you could use ‘Latine’ or ‘Latines’ as a more native spelling to the language… if a chud points it out as weird, ask them about “leche” and “las elecciones”
– Tip from a Spanish-colonized Asian migrant… (I don’t speak Spanish tho)
Edit: or you can adapt and not care about grammatical gender… as far as I can tell, it’s not really sexist than it is more about differentiating words like “puerta” (door) or “puerto” (port)
or “politicas” (policies) et “politicos” (politicians)
I’m not sure what to think of the term “Latinx.”
I just use Latino/a.
Is ‘Latine’ fine or too weird?
I know Latinx is unpronouncable, lmao, but an enbi version would be fine
Latine or even “Latin” doesn’t seem too bad, though “Latin” makes it seem too European, which we’re technically not.
Wow another week passed by. I will have mango curry later :3. Plus I plan to workout today…took a break because I was sick.
Mmmmm… Mango curry…
Dear m Mayo Jewish person who got mad we don’t sell kosher.
It’s not racist to inconvenience you with nothing being kosher at a fast food place. It’s anti semetic
I’m cross-posting like crazy my posts to other instances to help promote Hexbear.
But I’ve noticed a few comments over time that would rather have me cool it with the cross-posting.
So I think that’s what I’ll do. I don’t want to spam. I’ll limit it to 4 or 5 tops and maybe promote on other websites.
As for the thread tax:
I’m still trying to re-learn Spanish after having forgotten it since I was a little child. I wonder if I can find a group of Latino/a in my area that are trying to do the same thing?
Well, it’s worth a look, at least.
I’m majoring in Spanish right now! Maybe we could practice together? (I’m not Latin American though)
I’m trying to find others in my local area, but I’ll consider it. Thanks!
I need some help.
I’m but sure but good luck!
Thanks!
Qué preferen para bailar salsa, bachata o merengue?
En el pasado yo bailaba bachata y un poco de merengue. Entre los dos me gustaba bailar bachata mas.
Merengue.
