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      10 months ago

      Its frame of reference is Islam, which determines its principles, objectives and means.

      This part isn’t going to sell many people on Hamas. There’s a lot of justification of violence in their text. (Although that could be said about a great number of religious texts).

      However, their demands (page 15) don’t seem too difficult to meet…. As long as they know they aren’t getting any additional land—Israel will never go for that.

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        Then Israel must be destroyed completely. This is not a hyperbole, Israel does not deserve to exist. Israel is a paper tiger of US imperialism, it will die when the US is unable to prop up its corpse any longer.

        This part isn’t going to sell many people on Hamas. There’s a lot of justification of violence in their text. (Although that could be said about a great number of religious texts).

        Islamophobia rears its head once again. What’s the other side? A racist, ethno-supremacist apartheid state of barely indistinguishable neo-nazis that’s hellbent on being a US lapdog against the Arab world (and the Global South).

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          9 months ago

          Justifying Israeli genocide? Most of those people were just born there. Doing their thing. What do you propose happens to them?

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            Willfully misinterpreting my words, Israel as a nation state is separate from Israelis.

            Most of those people were just born there. Doing their thing. What do you propose happens to them?

            Live in Palestine as equals or leave the country never to return. Many “Israelis” are settlers who saw the nation as a ripe spot to cozy up while displacing the indigenous Palestinians, they will be the first to flee back to their imperial core. The ones who were born into this mess will be citizens of Palestine rebuilding the country on top of the corpse of Zionists who tried to take it from them and their Palestinian brothers in arms.

            There are Israelis resisting the occupation, unfortunately they are the exception not the rule as nearly all facets of Israeli life is consumed by hatred for Arabs since birth until death.

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              9 months ago

              It’s hardly willful, you did say they should be destroyed completely. That’s pretty open for interpretation.

              So, let’s say the current government of Israel steps down, and they hold a fair election between everyone to start a new democracy. Borders are gone, no more fighting. The new government rebuilds Gaza. All the citizens of Israel keep their lives under the new system. And religious discrimination and all acts of violence, no matter how you think god feels, becomes a crime — does that work? Did I miss anything?

              Oh, and feel free to kill the former government. Don’t tell them until after haha.

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                9 months ago

                current government of Israel

                Israeli apartheid stretches far beyond “the current government”, what you advocate for is a total destruction of the Jewish state.

                You also ignore Right of Return for Palestinians as well as other reparations in the West Bank.

                You do not understand Israel and it shows.

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                  I said borders are gone. Is that not the right to return? It was to me.

                  As far as reparations, the new government would handle that.

                  It all seems pretty cut and dry to me.