Quebec City Mayor Bruno Marchand has suggested that the solution to the crisis may be a Finnish model, which is a ‘housing first’ approach that aims to give everyone a home.

  • hperrin@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    92
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    Never have I seen so many people with so many unworkable solutions to a problem take so long to come to the most obvious solution. Just give people homes. Don’t let people die on the street, it’s inhumane.

    • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      arrow-down
      35
      ·
      10 months ago

      Sounds simple. But Finland is an insular society and has different social issues.

      In my city, there was a push to put social housing in place, as most of the local homeless population lacked the skills to maintain a house by themselves. Mental illness and addiction together affect a very large part of the homeless population.

      The result was that some people who sorely needed housing got some, and a lot of people refused to take part because they didn’t want to agree to other people’s rules.

      And then the social housing attracted people from nearby communities so that it’s now full, but the majority of the local homeless from before the project started are still homeless.

      Just saying that “just give everyone a home” may sound simple, but in reality is very complex.

      • PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        38
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        10 months ago

        Problem, the homes are getting full. The solution: Build more homes? Too complex.

        • tapdattl@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          10
          ·
          10 months ago

          The big issue I see is states that don’t want to implement social housing programs just shipping their unhousedpeoples to states that do and overwhelming the systems created.

          • PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            ·
            10 months ago

            I live in Chicago, one of the locations that many migrants are being shipped to, but even here the city refuses to build additional housing, or even use it’s Department of Housing to fund the refurbishing of it’s hundreds of units of dilapidated housing. Ultimately if the solution doesn’t enrich someone with money, it isn’t something that will ever happen in most of the world.

      • hperrin@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        29
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        10 months ago

        What you’re describing is not “just give everyone a home”, so I’m not surprised it didn’t work.

      • Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        24
        ·
        10 months ago

        Homeless in Finland are pretty much all addicts or people with mental illness. The problem is 100% same here than other developed nations.

        • swope@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          20
          ·
          10 months ago

          I think homelessness and despair cause mental illness and substance abuse. If we can prevent “normal” people from losing their homes, I think they would be more stable and able to take care of themselves long term.

          Allowing homelessness is far more costly to everyone else than preventing it.

          • Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            10
            ·
            10 months ago

            Yes, many things have to have failed before person ends up homeless.

            In Finland the positive side is that homelessness is near impossible due financial situation in Finland, state will always provide you enough welfare to have a home (system pays 80% of your rent if you are on welfare)

            • hperrin@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              10 months ago

              Whereas in the USA, the only thing that has to fail for you to become homeless is your health.

      • TH1NKTHRICE@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        10 months ago

        What city was this that tried housing first and it didn’t work? I’m interested in reading the details