The world seems to be shocked by the news that WhatsApp turned any phone into spyware. Everything on your phone – including photos, emails and texts – could be accessed by attackers just because you had WhatsApp installed [1].
This news didn’t surprise me, though. Last year WhatsApp had to admit they had a very similar issue – a single video call via WhatsApp was all a hacker needed to get access to all of your phone’s data [2].
Every time WhatsApp has to fix a critical vulnerability in their app, a new…
This is an article written by telegram’s founder and CEO Pavel Durov in 2019 on “Why whatsapp will never be secure”. Your thoughts?
I think you are mixing concepts, encryptions isn’t related to “secure” but to “privacy”. On my example, your data on bank is encrypted via SSL which the server has the private key to read it, but it is encrypted. Telegram is the same, your messages are being encrypted by a public key owned by the server, but it is encrypted, just not end to end.
Security and privacy often overlap. e2e secures messages content from unwanted eyes. And therefore also benefits privacy of course.
You were talking about security, not about privacy.
Telegram and WhatsApp both use TLS - so in don’t see the advantage for Telegram there.
I’m not talking about privacy, if you read the first replies from this thread you will see I expose some examples how easy is to exploit WhatsApp, that’s a security issue, not a privacy issue.
But to be fair I shouldn’t have started to talk about e2e if your initial concern was exploit count and serivity. (Which I didn’t compare between the two messenger’s)
Remember you said: “like Telegram doesn’t encrypt most messages therefore by design is already not secure and user data is readable.”
And I replied to you that no one said Telegram was unsafe, there were no exploits or any security issues, while on WhatsApp, many issues have been found.
Returning to your initial phrase:
Security and privacy often overlap. e2e secures messages content from unwanted eyes. And therefore also benefits privacy of course.
“secures messages content from unwanted eyes” is called privacy. Stop mixing the two concepts.
It is secure as secure is logging into your bank account from your web browser.
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I think you are mixing concepts, encryptions isn’t related to “secure” but to “privacy”. On my example, your data on bank is encrypted via SSL which the server has the private key to read it, but it is encrypted. Telegram is the same, your messages are being encrypted by a public key owned by the server, but it is encrypted, just not end to end.
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You were talking about security, not about privacy.
I’m not talking about privacy, if you read the first replies from this thread you will see I expose some examples how easy is to exploit WhatsApp, that’s a security issue, not a privacy issue.
Remember you said: “like Telegram doesn’t encrypt most messages therefore by design is already not secure and user data is readable.”
And I replied to you that no one said Telegram was unsafe, there were no exploits or any security issues, while on WhatsApp, many issues have been found.
Returning to your initial phrase:
“secures messages content from unwanted eyes” is called privacy. Stop mixing the two concepts.
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