• JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]@hexbear.netEnglish
    7·
    9 months ago

    does mary sue just mean strong now? i thought it meant a (usually) flawless self-insert character? like the term is (derogatory) for tween girl fanfiction.

    superman is usually not a self-insert and while usually extremely boring because he’s too stronk, he’s not flawless as a person.

    goku is a terrible father

    • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      6·
      9 months ago

      People have decided it means strong when its rhetorically useful i guess. Though the idea that this applies to Superman and not Goku is self evidentally silly.

      The idea that Superman is boring because he’s strong is making the mistake that superhero stories are about the fights only. The best Superman stories are about his humanity and relationships. He is a pretty complex charachter on that level.

      Also “Goku is a terrible father” is more a Team 4Star meme then it is actually true lol.

      • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]@hexbear.netEnglish
        3·
        9 months ago

        The idea that Superman is boring because he’s strong is making the mistake that superhero stories are about the fights only. The best Superman stories are about his humanity and relationships. He is a pretty complex charachter on that level.

        i mean the good superman stories are like “for the man who has everything” but there are a fuckload of superman writers who are not alan moore and just give every 2-bit thug in an alley a kryptonite gun

        other characters can have stories about the fight and have stakes or precarity but superman isn’t credible in that mode. they need to stop adapting the fucken doomsday story.