• Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    11 months ago

    No concept of “nationality” then. He was a Jew born in the lands of Palestine which was split up into I think 3 kingdoms at the time administered by different Romans. That’s it.

    The modern concept of nationhood did not exist and borders weren’t solid lines either.

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      Technically one was administered by a Jewish puppet king, but Jesus didn’t live there (except possibly for his birth but being born in Bethlehem is not consistent in the gospels)

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        11 months ago

        but being born in Bethlehem is not consistent in the gospels

        This sounds interesting, I haven’t heard it before or if I have I forgot about it. What are the differences?

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          So Mark and John don’t really deal with the Nativity, and seem to assume Jesus had always lived in Nazareth.

          Matthew thinks Joseph lived in Bethlehem, had to flee from Herod to Egypt, and came back to live in Nazereth.

          Luke squares the circle by saying Joseph lived in Nazareth but had to travel to Bethlehem for a census, after which they just went home

          On balance I’d say this means there is an early tradition of a Bethlehem nativity and Luke and Matthew obtained that from different sources. But then Mark is the earliest gospel and while John probably wasnt written by John the writers have a more direct apostolic connection.