Yesterday I made the mistake of watching random comedians on youtube. One guy I saw had an audience of thousands of people in Australia, and he told nothing except painfully racist anti-China jokes. (Yes, it might have been the algorithm being like: “You like China? Well, howabout a comedian advocating genocide on China?”) Everyone on hexbear knows that this is typical for comedians because the audiences at comedy shows tend to be drunk bourgeois scum, etc., etc.

But it’s not just comedy. How many movies have you seen or books have you read where any of the characters, at any point, says something incredibly basic like: “capitalism bad, communism good.” I’m not even sure Soviet or Chinese movies go that far (with the notable exception of Eisenstein’s films…which were made before 1945). Plenty of works of art might imply that there is something corrupt about the military, police, or the powers-that-be, but they will never say that the system is the problem and that a better system exists. One very rare exception I can think of is The Battle of Algiers.

Also think about the dogshit novels Americans have to read in school: Animal Farm or To Kill A Mockingbird. The moral of both stories is basically: “Opposing the system is futile. Accept the system.” Nabokov is hailed as the greatest novelist of the latter half of the 20th century, but he’s basically a highbrow version of Ayn Rand, and repeatedly condemns communism by name in his books. We also know that the CIA had (and has) its fingers in every pie, and that the PMC also knows that it’s not allowed to “get political,” i.e., provide context. Even when it comes to classical Russian literature, Dostoevsky is probably the most popular in the USA, and the guy is a reactionary Christian monarchist who recycles the openings to his novels and is apparently nowhere near as popular in Russia.

I’ve just also been thinking about the greatest works of Statesian literature, how they are few and far between, how they were all written before 1945, and how they rarely were recognized for their greatness until long after their authors were dead. Steinbeck is one exception. The Grapes of Wrath is great (it was also written before 1945), but doesn’t advocate for a better system. Poe and Melville are as good as the best writers from any other country, and Melville specifically inveighs against colonialism in his earlier novels, but both of these dudes were dead before they were recognized as titans. (Melville enjoyed some early success but then faded into obscurity long before he finished Moby Dick.) Are any post-1945 Statesian writers as good as Poe or Melville? Maybe just Octavia Butler, who was dead before she was a household name AFAIK. She advocates for communism in Parable of the Sower, but has to hide it behind mystical language (“God is change”). Sorry To Bother You is one possible cinematic exception, but it never goes beyond saying that the system sucks.

I’m wrapping up a trilogy of novels at the moment, and they are blatantly pro-communist, and I’m just preparing myself for the fact that they are almost certainly not going to be a success, not just because of the numbers involved (millions of books published every year), but because of the passionate anti-communism in western countries. These books don’t have people saying “capitalism bad, communism good.” But they do have workers and peasants forming Soviets (even though they aren’t called Soviets), and I know from experience that even if as a writer you never turn to the camera and say “capitalism bad, communism good,” readers will still pick up on the fact that something is wrong, from a capitalist perspective—that workers aren’t capable of doing anything on our own, we need guidance from our enlightened masters, “human nature” is futile to oppose. I think there’s just a dialectical materialist style of writing that liberals and fascists pick up on without necessarily knowing that they’re picking up on it (because they spend their entire lives asleep).

Also I thought about this because I just saw and liked Trumbo, even though I was like: the blacklist never ended lol, where is my biopic about Paul Robeson, a Black colossus who never backed down from praising Stalin? Even if your job is dog shit picker upper (which I have done), you’ll lose that job if you praise Stalin.

And yes, this is a Arby’s.

  • Cromalin [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    7 months ago

    no

    many are supported because of their anti communism but i don’t believe most are loved due to it.

    bicycle thieves is regularly held up as one of the greatest films of all time and is super blatantly commie. all kinds of widely acclaimed films and books are at worst not commenting on capitalism, which is not the same thing as being anticommunist, and many of them are in fact very clearly anticapitalist. to pick one i watched recently, there will be blood is so blatantly about the evil at the core of american capitalism, the way it uses the church as a cudgel to beat workers into shape, the way it makes everyone miserable and consumes them. and that’s one of the most well loved films of the 21st century

    you have a weird view of what makes art good. ‘let people enjoy things’ is a facile thing to say, but i hope there are books or movies out there that you actually enjoy and don’t just appreciate the ideological purity of

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      7 months ago

      No, I enjoy all kinds of art, even lib art. I love Bicycle Thieves. But all it does is complain. It never advocates for something better.

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        bycicle thieves does in fact advocate for unionizing by showing the union as the one organization that actually tries to help him

        and you have 2 separate complaints, one which is blatantly untrue (the western canon is all anticommunist cia ops that are only popular because of that) and one of which is entirely subjective (the exceptions to the above are insufficiently rigorous in their leftist preaching) so it’s no wonder everyone focused on the former

        edit: i just reread this and i think i’m coming off as more hostile than i meant to, so i’ll recommend a legitimately revolutionary work or two. obviously these aren’t too mainstream, though i think friends at the table might have gotten a shoutout on npr or something and it’s got a pretty successful patreon

        unjust depths is a free web novel about the aftermath of revolution. it takes place in a postapocalyptic underwater setting 20 years after a collection of colonies revolt from the empire that founded them and form an explicitly communist state. it’s about a mix between the generation that fought in the revolution and the generation that inherited it, fighting to secure the liberation of the people oppressed within the empire they escaped. it’s incredible, and in addition to all that it’s very gay. not yet complete

        friends at the table is an actual play podcast, which might mean you don’t like it that much, but it’s very good. i haven’t gotten to the more explicitly finding a better future seasons yet (i’m 2/3rds of the way through counter/weight which is very cool mecha cyberpunk about the ways things are bad) but apparently one of the later seasons is about how imperialism is a cosmic horror and when it leaves a place the place is ravaged but the people there can build something better. which sounds sick and i trust these people (and the people i know who like it, including on this site) enough that i believe it’s well done

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          6 months ago

          Good post. Yeah I am just vibing and will check out your recommendations. I haven’t seen Bicycle Thieves in awhile and recognize that I could be wrong there.

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            i hope you do! i’m very sympathetic to the complaint that most art doesn’t advocate for a better future in any meaningfully leftist way, which is why things like unjust depths appeal to me so much

            i’m a nitpicker at heart so i focused on the stuff that bugged me but i do think the broader point stands. art doesn’t need to be about people forming a workers state or whatever to be good, but i sure wish there were more works that did. i think to kill a mockingbird is a good depiction of a young child realizing how shitty the world is, but there are a lot of those stories and very few end with the kid truly radicalizing. the trend is bad even if the specifics aren’t necessarily