• KarlBarqs [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    11 months ago

    this is a classic sci fi plot

    And every single fucking time it goes bad for the people involved

    Like literally every single instance of a species being uplifted in sci fi is a cautionary tale about interference with others, and usually has the uplifted species be violent/used as a weapon

    Literal fucking Torment Nexus bullshit

    • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      All (good) sci-fi is an exploration of issues that already exist in our world, just with the added distance of future/tech that allows those issues to take an even greater shape.

      This whole “uplifting primates” bs is just sci-fi talk for neoliberal development economics, it’s just saying the quiet part out loud, in that people from poor countries are an inherently inferior species.

    • QuillcrestFalconer [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      The Culture Series would like a word. Although sometimes when they interfere things do go bad and that’s part of the narrative, but the majority of time they don’t interfere it results in self destruction of civilizations

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      Stuff doesn’t go bad per se in 2001, where it’s heavily implied that humans were uplifted. It just gets real trippy and then the sequels sucked.

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      Would you bother reading/watching/playing scifi media that didn’t have some sort of conflict, like everything just went great?

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        I wouldn’t, but that doesn’t mean I want the sci fi conflict to happen in real life.

      • iridaniotter [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        11 months ago

        I’ve actually read some utopian literature. It’s cool to see what people in the past saw as an ideal future. We could use a little rebirth of the genre tbh

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          11 months ago

          Maybe you’re right, maybe the Tomorrowland concept is what the world is missing right now? Everything is a conflict to be overcome, noone imagines everyone just working together to achieve amazing things.

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            11 months ago

            I’ve read a couple utopian novels where the conflict is largely interpersonal drama against a backdrop of an ecologically sustainable world.