• Kevin@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    I hate how tipping is now customary at every single restaurant now, including places without servers.

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      11 months ago

      Just wait until you visit a restaurant that automatically adds 18% gratuity then also expects you to tip on to of that.

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        Yeah I’ve been to a restaurant (a few weeks ago) where the bill included a line item that said something like “18% hospitality fee - to ensure our workers are fairly compensated, this is not a tip”

        Like WTF.

        If it was disclosed anywhere on the menu, I didn’t see it.

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          The “fuck you pay your staff” sentiment is very valid, however, you shouldn’t reward a business that doesn’t pay their staff well with your money. The reality is, every single restaurant pays their staff a slave wage for the work they have to perform. Even chain restaurants work their employees like dogs. People who excel in the restaurant biz are hard working mfers.

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            11 months ago

            Yeah. That’s actually the “fuck you” part, as in, I’m not returning. As it is, I rarely eat out, partially for this reason, partially because inflation is painful.

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          Oh you sweet summer child. I’m not talking about the “large group” gratuity (which is also bullshit)… I’m talking about restaurants that are now adding an 18% gratuity for every bill - even if you just came in to have a drink.

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            11 months ago

            Sounds like a good reason to pay the bill with the CC and dispute it as fraud after the fact. Chargebacks hurt businesses.

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        That’s when I just let them have the hole they dug. I’d normally at least tip 20% (usa of course.)

        I get that the service staff has little to no control over this charge, but I got it earlier tonight on a party of two. No extra service, no check-ins, no waters, nothing other than “here ya go.” They even had a QR code to order and pay with phone number, email, and address requirement even though I’m out of town on a one off drop in.

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          You know, if they include a mandatory fee, it gets taxed too. So that 18% gets sales taxed on top of it, bringing it close to 20% anyway. You end up paying the same amount and the government just gets more. Overall dumbbbbb

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          11 months ago

          Okay, that’s insane. Part of the social contract we have in tipping culture is that your server is supposed to be a superstar. Crazy nightmare dinner rushes aside, no waters???

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        But that’s literally what the gratuity is for. Conscientious restaurants want to make sure their staff gets a little something something from a large party, auto grats are for that reason. If they expect a tip on top of that, something is wrong.

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          11 months ago

          Some restaurants are now starting to do this for every bill - not just for large groups.

          If a restaurant owner won’t pay their staff enough without tips, that’s the real problem.

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      I keep hearing this, but I’ve never encountered it. Still only given a tip screen on debit machines at regular sit down restaurants. Never once seen it in a fast food or retail environment.