There are lots of other 
moments there.
“Single payer economies leads to bad things like Bolshevism and Stalin”
@UlyssesT@hexbear.net Let’s hear your rant
There are lots of other moments there.
“Single payer economies leads to bad things like Bolshevism and Stalin”
@UlyssesT@hexbear.net Let’s hear your rant
What term should be used instead?
Free Software or Open Source Software, depending on which one you’re talking about. They are not the same thing and should not be grouped together.
Yeah but I like shorthand things and Stallman’s a pedophile, idk, wish the space wasn’t dominated by misogynistic weirdos
Stallman’s personal failings in other areas doesn’t discredit his essays on Free software. I don’t care for Stallman but I don’t want other people in this space to suffer more than they already have for his blunders.
The free software world is more open (pun) than it has ever been. The misogynists are on the way out lest they want someone like Drew Devault to write an essay exposing them (Hyprland)
Edit: in the last 2-3 years after the pandemic.
Yeah I just like FOSS as a term and a concept and I’m not really sure what’s to be gained by tossing it for FLOSS. Maybe this is naive but I’ve found when a term speaks to people it catches really easily on the internet, like CSAM for CSAM being almost universally recognized overnight. I guess I just feel like if FOSS was worth throwing out for reasons other than “Actually I call it GNU/Linux” it would already be done; or it would feel more compelling to do so
I don’t like either FOSS or FLOSS. But I see where you’re coming from. I think FOSS is not worth arguing over in terms of changing what people already within the community say (compsci is already filled with strange terms), but I also want to clearly communicate the ideas of the 4 freedoms to outsiders coming in which FOSS doesn’t do to those already unaware. “Our community” is already really niche as it is and also has bad actors who want to erase the freedom aspect as much as possible and using unclear and confusing terminology is a real tactic (look at people calling LLMs and machine learning “AI”)
Acronyms don’t explain anything by themselves to people who don’t already understand them. Your example works because it’s already self describing, FOSS isn’t as much.
Bro I need me some four principles of the people shit. That’s badass, I ain’t been in the social aspect of Libre software for a while. We need a Sun Yat Sen emoji
YES PLEASE
No, don’t toss it for FLOSS, FLOSS is the same thing and has the exact same problem as FOSS. Stop grouping them together entirely.
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this is weird. in my circles, FOSS refers exclusively to Free Software. I’ve never heard it used in a way that mixes it with non-free but OSS software. people contrast FOSS with OSS to mean “possible licensing conflicts because the corporate policy disallows copyleft licenses” and the like. whereas, they use OSS to mean “totally kosher to use regardless of corporate policy”. I might just work in more licensing sensitive positions though.
If you just mean Free Software which preserves all four fundamental software freedoms, the correct term is Free Software or Free (libre) Software. Open Source is a corporate plot to dilute software freedom by conflating it with mere source availability.
oh yeah, for sure. I just meant that FOSS is generally only used to describe Free Software. the acronym isn’t great but I think the intent is the same.
If you mean Free Software say Free Software, don’t let that OSS sneak into the acronym
fair