The privacy sub may be even more paranoid than the stim subs.

This haunts them in their sleep:

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    • Parsani [love/loves, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOP
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      This is the kind of drivel which gets posted to that sub regarding why they should care China is “stealing their data” :

      if they get enough data, then they can use machine learning to find patterns effectively reading the mind of an average american. The govt can then push specially crafted propaganda aimed at destroying your faith in country, and seed ideas like resisting the chinese is in vain and you should surrender.

      With enough time the population will get weaker and starts to fear any retaliation against the chinese because they are TOO STRONG (they are in your mind). Without public support Democratic govts can’t do shit ultimately causing US to crumble down and even taken over by chinese.

      Data is dangerous.

      I’d like to think this is a joke because I would write something like this as a bit, but I’ve seen a similar argument 1000 times by now.

      One of the senators in the tiktok hearing basically insinuated that China was installing a communism activation word in the heads of Americans.

      To put it mildly, Americans are not an intellectual people.

      • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        if they get enough data, then they can use machine learning to find patterns effectively reading the mind of an average american. The govt can then push specially crafted propaganda aimed at destroying your faith in country, and seed ideas like resisting the chinese is in vain and you should surrender.

        That’s not how “machine learning” works. Do they think they live in a marvel movie?

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        if they get enough data, then they can use machine learning to find patterns effectively reading the mind of an average american.

        It’s not hard you just take literally any issue no matter how pointless or obvious the solution and half the country will think it’s good and the other half will think it’s bad. America can only process new problems through the lens of adversarial politics where nothing can get done. Ultimately because the US constitution is the worst legal framework in history so they can’t campaign on actual policy

        the complicated statistical analysis necessary to predict American patterns is a coin flip. Of course the UK is simpler just ask what would an incredibly corrupt person do and there you have it the UK government

        and the Chinese wouldn’t want to intrude in the excellent job the US government is doing at destroying American faith in their country

      • SuperZutsuki [they/them, any]@hexbear.net
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        You don’t need special algorithms to read the mind of the average American. The American brainpan consists of “car good, racism, queerphobia, kill the homeless, CONSUME” and that really covers 99% of what goes on in the average American’s head.

    • EatPotatoes [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      I don’t think the cretin making the post on reddit logo can adequately explain why they are so terrified without resorting to blatant racism and westoid fantasies. But the existential crisis for the west is that capitialism has run out of road with data, attention and platforms the last all important commodities to shape and dominate what is left of the economy. Your attention is a zero sum game for them and the data is the all important fuel.

      The majority of people have huge data footprints with fragments of themselves everywhere. Yet is there any real example of blackmail with all this data? I remember reading a quater of Soshana Zuboff’s Surveillience Capitialism before I could take no more of needlessly prolonged lib storytelling. Are there any worse examples of this specifically ruining somebodies life other then a ruined engagement? Like if somebody who made it to the end of that drivel enlight us that would be great or correct me where I am worng about data.

      • Orbital [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        Surveillience Capitialism

        Substance is buried beneath the libbery. The relevant bit: capitalist conditions have changed. Surveillance capitalism brings new rules distinct from those of industrial or finance capital. I mean we did have massive towers of data driven wealth arise and multiply in very short order. This also means new repression will operate differently from the fascism of the past

        As a LIB Zuboff has fluffy, vibes based ideas on what to do about it, and a very cute belief that the West has meaningful democracy, eg the concept that top level decision making behind closed doors is new

        Disclaimer: I am a babby on theory, open to correction from real vanguard ppl

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      i absolutley have seen some of these idiots claim that china has underground police in the us. nothing seems to be to absurd for these people