Things that are so obvious and ingrained that no one even thinks about them.

Here’s a few:

All US americans can go to Mexico EASILY. You’re supposed to have a passport but you don’t even need one (for car/foot crossing). Versus, it’s really hard for Mexicans, who aren’t wealthy, to secure a VISA to enter the US. I’m sure there are corollaries in other geo-regions.

Another one is wealthy countries having access to vaccines far ahead of “poor” countries.

In US, we might pay lip service to equal child-hood education but most of the funding pulls from local taxes so some kids might receive ~$10000 in spending while another receives $2000. I’m not looking it up at the moment, but I’m SURE there are strong racial stratas.

  • Tachanka [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    passionately hate them without consideration of any good they accomplished

    this is your characterization. I never said “I HATE THE FOUNDING FATHERS AND REFUSE TO CONSIDER ANYTHING ABOUT THEM AAAAAAAAAAAA.”

    No. I have carefully considered their entire legacy. Thanks! I am even able to distinguish between those among them who owned slaves, and those among them who were merely friends with slave owners. I am able to distinguish between George Washington, who put down Shay’s rebellion, and Benjamin Franklin, who claimed that making the inhabitants of the Earth whiter was a noble pursuit. I am able to distinguish between John Quincy Adams, who wanted slavery abolished eventually (as long as no slave owners got hurt in the process!) and Thomas Jefferson, who actively sexually assaulted his slaves and sold his own children.

    I am able to treat them as individuals, assess their legacies, and come to the conclusion that they were bourgeois nationalists, and to the extent that their cause was “progressive” against the British monarchy, is negated entirely by the genocidal settler-colonial territory they lived on, whose economy was based largely on slavery. I am also able to remember that their primary motivation for independence wasn’t opposition to monarchy or love of bourgeois republicanism, but anger at taxation, the highest crime a bourgeois individual can suffer. Having their profits decreased.

    is therefore wrong about everything and incapable of having acceptable opinions on other topics?

    if you’re just going to ask questions about things I never said, it’s not going to be a very productive conversation

    No. I’m not saying that. But you seem uninterested in directly quoting what I did say and responding to it.

    That sounds like tribalism and is what I was responding to.

    Define this tribalism which so concerns you. What “tribe” have you determined me to be a member of?

    I mean, if you tell me straight up that my every opinion is wrong

    good thing I never said that. If you said 2+2= 4 I would tell you you’re right. Perhaps you’re engaged with multiple people and you’re becoming increasingly confused. I recommend re-reading everything I’ve said to you thus far and thinking a bit harder about it.

    that makes you an extremist, a fanatic, and further dialog is pointless.

    lol. you have decided I am a bunch of scary things and not worth talking to or listening to. This makes me the extreme one.

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      You just jumped into the middle of a conversation between me and someone else, or maybe I responded to the wrong person. Anyway this particular thread was in response to machiabelly or something like that.

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        You just jumped into the middle of a conversation between me and someone else

        I made that clear when I referred directly to them (the person you were previously speaking to) but then you became confused and spoke to me as though I were them, despite that.