I’ve noticed a lot of posts asking how we’re going to vote, and people coming in trying to shame people for not voting for Biden, or any candidate in the general election at all.

So I’m curious and, asking in good faith, want to know - what will make you stop voting for Biden?

  • Helmic [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    10 months ago

    If you want an electoral solution, then withhold your vote on the explicit demand that Biden and the Democrats must bring Israel to heel and end the genocide immediately. If that seems unworkable, then so is this supposed democracy.

    What you are correct about, though, is that simply saying “i’m not gonna vote” has always failed to be convincing to anyone but ourselves. That has to be paired with an alternative. The UAW is calling on other unions to negotiate for all their contracts to expire in 2028, in hopes of amassing an actual general strike. There are weapons manufacturers in the US that are not particularly well defended were they to be occupied. We can make the brands of those on the BDS list utterly toxic.

    Remember that, for a moment during hte 2020 uprisings, the bourgeoisie blinked. They actually, briefly, were genuinely afraid that they could lose their power, and they had to at least pretend to support the protests. They libs had to grin and bear it as the third prescinct burned with a higher approval raiting than any presidential candidate. There is the capacity to render this entire country ungovernable, and if we focus on preparing for that and making sure the prescincts keep burning and don’t stop, if we can create more unrest than what the cops can manage even with all their ahrdware that can’t actually be everywhere at once. People have to learn to engage in politics outside of the actual existing US government.

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      If you want an electoral solution, then withhold your vote on the explicit demand that Biden and the Democrats must bring Israel to heel and end the genocide immediately. If that seems unworkable, then so is this supposed democracy.

      If we want this to work, then it needs to be combined with action. I’ve already called my reps a couple times letting them know they will not recive my vote come arround. But we need to mobilize that kind of message to as many as we can. Its not enough to say here that were not voting, we need to call in every week from now until the election \ a cease fire and tell them were not voting unless something changes.


      I agree with the rest of your comments too. My problem is the lack of planning. There needs to be a plan, a plan that is digestible and distributable.

      Were supposed to be the collectivists, we need to put I and Me on the backburner for Us and We. That’s the first hill to climb.