no that’s really silly the monsters in a movie can at once be metaphors and also literal monsters within the narrative in dracula the vampire both represents a horror from the old world come into the new and a scary dude that eats people
Guy looking at dracula: damn an empire teetering at the apex of its power is anxious about the horrors of colonialism being turned inward, and the hidden debauchery that undergirds a puritanical society!
The true point arcing above his head: damn eastern Europeans are weird
Yeah it follows has one theme executed poorly. It has one metaphor also executed poorly. Its a facil movie and a typical monster movie shot in a somewhat art house style. I really think its the style that makes people see a depth that is just not present.
I suppose the Fly was just a dumb movie about a guy who got mixed up with a fly too, and didn’t symbolize any deeper themes of transformation, transhumanism, evolution, fear of sex, fear of birth and babies, death drive or anything further. Just a movie about a guy turning into a fly.
How do you enjoy art with this level of shallow incuriosity to the symbols, themes and context of said art? Especially horror, which is so interwoven with social commentary and social fears
man that’s tough. fire walk with me for sure, but for sex scenes that aren’t terrifying sexual assault scenes maybe portrait of a lady on fire? i can think of a few others, the handmaiden, moonlight, etc. in general, i think most sex scenes in otherwise good movies don’t bring down the quality of the movie as long as it makes sense for the characters. people fuck! it happens! if done artfully it can enhance your understanding of the characters, and even if not handled perfectly as long as it makes sense it takes a decent amount to get too gratuitous for me
that’s not to say i’m cool with all horny bullshit in movies or tv, there’s so much anime out there that needs to have tits shoved awkwardly on screen regularly. but when an anime reads like the creators know what sex is then it doesn’t bug me that much. chainsaw man is horny but i don’t mind it. chainsaw man is made better by how it handles its horniness imo. in general as long as sexuality is handled with care it’s no worse than any other element that could show up in a film
also a lot of people act like there are tons of movies with sex in them, and that just isn’t the case. i mean, not anymore at least. they show up, but the vast majority of hollywood blockbusters are completely sexless
Which movie do you think has most benefited from a sex scene?
It Follows. The sex being so awkward and uncomfortable made that movies point better than any dialogue could have
Considering what that movie is about I had kinda forgotten there were sex scenes.
???
The entire movie is about sex and fear of the social repercussions of sex
Second for second there’s more running away from an invisible monster than sex so yeah
Its just a regular monster movie with one weird trick. Like smile or birdbox
Also it’s not about STDs bc that’s not how STDs work.
That invisible monster represents the negative repercussions of sex perceived from a teenager
No it does not. It could be hamfisted into being an std but you can’t cure aids by setting up a zany swimming pool trap or fucking it away.
Its a dumb monster movie with sex sloppily laid on top. So sloppily that one could reasonably conclude it’s pointlessly gratuitous.
no that’s really silly the monsters in a movie can at once be metaphors and also literal monsters within the narrative in dracula the vampire both represents a horror from the old world come into the new and a scary dude that eats people
it’s called a story having themes
Someone who doesn’t recognize this has no business saying anything about horror art and what is good and what isn’t
Guy looking at dracula: damn an empire teetering at the apex of its power is anxious about the horrors of colonialism being turned inward, and the hidden debauchery that undergirds a puritanical society!
The true point arcing above his head: damn eastern Europeans are weird
Yeah it follows has one theme executed poorly. It has one metaphor also executed poorly. Its a facil movie and a typical monster movie shot in a somewhat art house style. I really think its the style that makes people see a depth that is just not present.
Love to see it.
I suppose the Fly was just a dumb movie about a guy who got mixed up with a fly too, and didn’t symbolize any deeper themes of transformation, transhumanism, evolution, fear of sex, fear of birth and babies, death drive or anything further. Just a movie about a guy turning into a fly.
How do you enjoy art with this level of shallow incuriosity to the symbols, themes and context of said art? Especially horror, which is so interwoven with social commentary and social fears
What’s the Scooby doo swimming pool trap ment to represent?
man that’s tough. fire walk with me for sure, but for sex scenes that aren’t terrifying sexual assault scenes maybe portrait of a lady on fire? i can think of a few others, the handmaiden, moonlight, etc. in general, i think most sex scenes in otherwise good movies don’t bring down the quality of the movie as long as it makes sense for the characters. people fuck! it happens! if done artfully it can enhance your understanding of the characters, and even if not handled perfectly as long as it makes sense it takes a decent amount to get too gratuitous for me
that’s not to say i’m cool with all horny bullshit in movies or tv, there’s so much anime out there that needs to have tits shoved awkwardly on screen regularly. but when an anime reads like the creators know what sex is then it doesn’t bug me that much. chainsaw man is horny but i don’t mind it. chainsaw man is made better by how it handles its horniness imo. in general as long as sexuality is handled with care it’s no worse than any other element that could show up in a film
also a lot of people act like there are tons of movies with sex in them, and that just isn’t the case. i mean, not anymore at least. they show up, but the vast majority of hollywood blockbusters are completely sexless
You could make this point about any kind of scene in a movie.
I just realized this a is a hot dog a sandwich discourse and regret looking at it.
i mean yeah. i just don’t think sex scenes are fundamentally that different from non-sex scenes, though clearly some people do
True Detective (season 1). Rust has one which is really impactful.
The Fly
The Gina Davis egg laying scene afterwards was killer.
if a tv show counts, there’s that one scene in the boys and why even watch any of it if they’re gonna cut the shrinking guy doing that?