• hperrin@lemmy.world
    2421·
    8 个月前

    You can definitely tell how old it is because both Rust and 3D printed guns have gotten way better.

    And TypeScript is just the JavaScript sword, but with a cheap leather hilt.

    • ours@lemmy.worldEnglish
      47·
      8 个月前

      And C# now can be taken off the donkey and mounted on a penguin and works rather well.

    • flying_sheep@lemmy.ml
      35·
      8 个月前

      It’s a heavy duty hilt that’s easily detachable by a small recessed switch labeled “any”.

      (It does its job very well as long as you don’t opt out of using it)

      • frezik@midwest.social
        18·
        8 个月前

        Except the tool you use to build the hilt in the first place has 100 permutations of settings, and most of them kill you on the spot.

    • alokir@lemmy.world
      281·
      8 个月前

      Also C# (or should I say the .net framework) is now cross platform, which wasn’t really the case when I first saw this meme.

      This joke made sense when instead of .net you could only use Mono with C# on other platforms, which wasn’t very good at the time.

      • r00ty@kbin.life
        9·
        8 个月前

        Yes, especially when you’re running linux, and the project you started on windows that uses serial ports suddenly doesn’t work any more and you wonder why.

        Hint: The events for serial data received didn’t fire under mono, for reasons.

      • ours@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8·
        8 个月前

        Mostly right. Microsoft showed off how .NET 1.0 worked on FreeBSD but it was absolutely pointless since they didn’t provide commercial licenses to run it on anything else but Windows until .NET Core.

      • dan@upvote.au
        8·
        8 个月前

        I hosted my personal site using Mono over 10 years ago now and it mostly worked well. I contributed some code to Mono to fix a few edge cases where their behaviour deviated slightly from Microsoft’s.

        Of course, I couldn’t actually look at Microsoft’s shared source code when doing that, so I had to just observe its outputs. At the time, Mono code had to all be clean-room implementations, since Microsoft’s shared source program, where they released parts of the .NET Framework 4.x source code publicly, had a very restrictive license that didn’t permit reuse (it wasn’t open-source). Even just looking at the code meant you couldn’t contribute to Mono.

        I was very happy when .NET Core was announced and switched to a beta of 1.0 as soon as I could.

    • pingveno@lemmy.mlEnglish
      17·
      8 个月前

      And Python’s migration to 3.x is more or less complete. Took a while (15 years since 3.0), but it’s to the point where migration is not a common topic of conversation.

    • Pyro@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      8 个月前

      Perhaps a paper hilt. It’ll trick some people into thinking it’s safer but as soon as you begin using it you realise it still has all the same problems as before.

      • hperrin@lemmy.world
        3·
        8 个月前

        I don’t know, man. I migrated one of my libraries and found 3 bugs just from that. It’s prevented a number of other bugs and issues too.

    • Dieguito 🦝@feddit.itOP
      37·
      8 个月前

      Thank you! The original source of truth! 💎 As IT people, this is part of our culture and should be transmitted. 🤣

      • Deebster@programming.devEnglish
        9·
        8 个月前

        It seems the image is a screenshot of the original page, slightly upscaled, but since the source page includes links to larger images we can make the HD remaster. Shotgun not me.

    • marcos@lemmy.world
      9·
      8 个月前

      And before the time people actually talked about the multidimensional clusterfuck that C become.

    • dan@upvote.au
      6·
      8 个月前

      It’s not as common any more, but there’s still things using logic programming languages (Prolog and similar) even today.

      Java uses it in the type checker. From the JVM spec:

      The type checker enforces type rules that are specified by means of Prolog clauses.

      There’s some other compiler and NLP (natural language processing) use cases for it too. I’ve seen some companies use it to define restraints for their business logic, which isn’t too different from the type checker rules use case.

      It’s definitely fallen out of common use though.

      • Treczoks@lemm.eeEnglish
        4·
        8 个月前

        We did Prolog in university - actually it was one of the two languages we had to learn in CS, the other one being Pascal.

        I always considered Prolog a pain in the ass and unsuitable for anything bigger than a piece of homework due to the “we don’t do loops, we have tail recursion” making the code unnecessary complex and hard to read. On a list of Write-Only languages I’d rate it a few steps below Perl.

        • dan@upvote.au
          2·
          8 个月前

          There’s a few things it’s very good at, but anything outside of that tends to be painful.

          I also used Pascal and Prolog in university, in my first year. That was… 15 years ago now. Wow.

  • GamesRevolution@programming.dev
    442·
    8 个月前

    It’s a pretty good representation of Rust, being 3d printed means that it’s the only gun where you can’t shoot yourself in the foot

  • roo@lemmy.one
    38·
    8 个月前

    It’s funny because people describe PowerShell as powerful, but really they mean it’s also a hammer to mash everything with. “Powerfull!”

    • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
      28·
      8 个月前

      Powershell suffers from the typical Microsoft problem: Ignore for decades, and then go completely over the top with it.

      • BestBouclettes@jlai.lu
        16·
        8 个月前

        I see Powershell as a nuclear bomb. It is extremely powerful and complex and barely anybody uses it because of it.

          • BestBouclettes@jlai.lu
            17·
            8 个月前

            Powershell is so much more than bash, not in a derogatory way.
            It’s a full fledged object oriented programming language, and it’s written in .Net I believe. You can integrate tons of plugins to manage your whole infra (exchange, Cisco, AD, VMware etc), just from the Powershell shell.
            I hate it because it’s slow, clunky and overly complex for its prime use, which is scripting.

          • alokir@lemmy.world
            13·
            8 个月前

            Yes and no. They serve roughly the same purpose.

            I actually hated Powershell until I was forced to work on some automation scripts with it and realized that it’s actually pretty cool.

            Bash is good for quickly doing something in the terminal but for longer script files I prefer PS now. It feels much more modern and has a less janky syntax.

            Funnily enough the reason I had to use it was to make my scripts cross platform between osx, linux and windows.

          • dan@upvote.au
            6·
            8 个月前

            People tend to hate on PowerShell but it’s cross-platform these days, and far easier to write than shell scripts once you understand the syntax.

            You can pipe objects between functions, rather than just string streams like in Bash. Often there’s no cut, sed, grep, etc needed as what you want is probably a property on an object.

            It’s not just a basic scripting language like Bash. It’s built on top of .NET, so most of things you can do in C#, you can also do in PowerShell (and if not, you can call into C# code).

            It’s especially popular for administration of Windows systems - if there’s anything you want to do on a Windows system, it’s likely there’s a PowerShell module for it.

  • tiredofsametab@kbin.social
    30·
    8 个月前

    “perl was probably useful once”?!

    I’m willing to bet a TON of medical and banking data is still making its way through perl today. (I’m not necessarily saying this is a good thing, but I have years of experience in healthcare IT).

    • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.social
      38·
      8 个月前

      For that matter, there are still folks out there coding, professionally, in FORTRAN.

      Thing is, back then, we didn’t know any better. Software was a commodity, and both the people who wrote it and the people who bought it had grown up in a time before the internet, before SaaS; people whose parents who, if they made things, made widgets.

      Back then, you could write a piece of software, and it was done. Then you sold it, and moved on. If the old software had bugs, if they weren’t catastrophic enough to cause a lawsuit, buyers learned to live with them. It was too bad; you already shipped the tapes. And few companies employed their own software developers unless they were software development companies. Man pages have a BUGS section, and that’s because there’s no intention to ever fix those bugs, because that software is done.

      Software today is never finished. Our first reaction if we see a project with no recent releases is that it’s abandoned, or dead, and certainly that it’s worse than a project with recent commits to the repo. Github is a huge culprit in reinforcing this mentality, but mobile app platforms (stores and OSes) are terrible about this, too. Google constantly changes the Play store in ways that force developers to tweak their apps lest they become incompatible, booted, or get flagged as being “old” a.k.a. “inferior.”

      Yet, still, there’s so much software out there that’s complete. An institution may hire a developer to come in and make a change, but it’s usually a contract one-off; it’s more like taking your car in to have the starter replaced. Those systems are going to continue keeping “dead” programming languages (commercially) alive for years to come.

    • r00ty@kbin.life
      8·
      8 个月前

      I use perl for that stuff (mostly automation) that’s a bit too complex for bash, but doesn’t need a proper project. Modern people would use python for this kind of thing. But, I’m too old to change!

    • frezik@midwest.social
      6·
      8 个月前

      When it comes to surprising behavior, Perl isn’t any worse than JavaScript. Which admittedly isn’t a great comparison for either language. Most of the bellyaching around Perl has to do with regular expressions, but every other language out there picked up Perl’s regex syntax in a mostly verbatim way (PCRE).

    • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
      1·
      8 个月前

      Perl is a language for programmers. This turns out to be a terrible idea. Everything actually works the first time, so you move on, and you’re left with the sloppiest inscrutable stream-of-consciousness mess that someone banged out whilst working through the problem.

      Perl is the only language where you can write more code than you read.

      • tiredofsametab@kbin.social
        1·
        8 个月前

        That’s a problem with no coding standards, peer review, etc.

        write_good_code() or die(qw(enough rope to hang yourself));

        or die unless write_good_code();

  • calypsopub@lemmy.world
    27·
    8 个月前

    I spent my career writing COBOL. Sad not to see it on the list. I think it would be a shield you can bash people with; clunky but effective

    • MajorHavoc@lemmy.world
      11·
      8 个月前

      Cobol as a shield would also fit with it inexplicably still be in popular use long after anyone expected!

      • spauldo@lemmy.mlEnglish
        3·
        8 个月前

        What’s that I hear? It sounds like Grace Hopper cackling from the grave…

    • pingveno@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      8 个月前

      I, too, have met Richard Stallman.

      (I kid. Mostly. He’s amazing in so many ways, but he’s a little off sometimes.)

  • flashgnash@lemm.ee
    171·
    8 个月前

    I feel like python would be an AR-15 or something, generic modern weapon that’s easy to use but doesn’t really do anything special

    • Dr Cog@mander.xyz
      4·
      8 个月前

      Definitely better than this outdated version. Nobody uses Python2 unless they want to at this point