• Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    If Israel wanted to commit a genocide, it would. I find it interesting how little tankie commie fucks like CG care about the people who start conflicts like this - Hamas and their allies in Hezbollah and Iran - and more about blaming the country with very legitimate security concerns here.

    I will often criticize Israeli policy, but Hamas is a literal group of genocidal terrorists, and they’re the government of Gaza. What is Israel supposed to do here?

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      8 months ago

      if it wanted to commit genocide it would

      What the fuck is it doing right now? What do you call what is happening right now? What do you call blocking people from escaping and bombing hospital killing people that are looking for shelter?! Your willful denial of that makes me sick 🤮

      Hamas is a group of genocidal terrorist

      No, you are thinking of the apartheid regime of Israel

      They are the government of Gaza

      I don’t know what kind of crack you’ve been smoking buddy, but Hamas is a revolutionary people’s army. It is not the government.

      What is Israel supposed to do?

      What it has always been supposed to do. It has to give back the sovereignity of the land to the rightful Palestinians and whoever wants to stay can request Palestinian citizenship.

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        8 months ago

        Only discussing this specific point:

        Hamas is the ruling (albeit defacto) government of Gaza

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_government#:~:text=Since June 2007%2C the Fatah,PNA representatives in June 2007.

        “Third Hamas government 2016–present is the Gaza-based Hamas-dominated de facto government in Gaza.”

        They don’t have the paperwork or the votes, but they absolutely run that place.

        No comment on anything else don’t reply to me about other topics.

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            8 months ago

            What? They used force to take what control they have

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              8 months ago

              Again. Why? What event or events caused a group of Palestinians to decide that forming a violent reactionary group was their best option? What prevents the other 2 million people in Gaza from rooting them out and/or condemning them?

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                8 months ago

                Multiple layers there.

                1: religious extremism

                2: they believe they should control Israel.

                3: they can’t do anything against Iran backed strongmen, they are just civilians

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                  8 months ago
                  1. Settlers stole Palestinian land because someone in Europe said it was cool.
                  2. Settlers build a wall and force 2.2 million people into one of the most densely packed ghettos in human history. A ghetto that the settlers can at any time cut off the water, electricity, internet and food supply. All of which the settlers do regularly.
                  3. Settlers regularly harass, abuse, rape, murder, gas and bomb their prisoners. Men, women, children, Hamas, civilian. Indiscriminately and whenever they feel like.

                  If you have to choose whether to watch your children starve to death slowly or die now on your feat defending your people’s right to live, I hope to God you have the balls to stand up.

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                    8 months ago

                    This has nothing to do with who is the defacto government of Gaza, which Hamas is.

                    It has to do with the why, which I’m not discussing further. Cya!