• mr_tyler_durden@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Proton and Rosetta 2 are two totally different beasts. One allows windows programs to run on non-windows hosts and one translates x86 to Arm.

    I’m not aware of Proton doing anything like Rosetta 2 and if it did Steam would have probably used an Arm chip in their Steam Deck instead of an x86.

    Maintaining 2-way compatibility doesn’t seem like an important goal. One way, x86->Arm, sure but not Arm->x86. Apple clearly sees x86 as a dead end for its own product lines and we will see if the rest of the industry follows suit over time. Of course there is a ton tied up in x86 but aside from legacy apps or games I don’t have much need of x86 in my life.

    Even the servers I run are trending towards Arm due to the power savings. AWS graviton stuff is like ~25-30% cheaper than x86 last I looked

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      9 months ago

      I understand proton isn’t the same thing, it was just an example of a compatibility layer…and how would a bidirectional compatibility layer not be beneficial? X86 in servers may be going away and even that’s debatable, but x86 isn’t going anywhere in the consumer space. Graviton chips are great, but they’re useless if there’s no viable way to translate those x86 legacy applications over to ARM without breaking the bank until your business is ready to transition the workload to ARM.

      Amazon was working on a compatibility layer specifically for this purpose, however I suspect they’ve given up because they’ve slowly added Intel and AMD chipsets back into their general purpose ec2 class for newer generations and there hasn’t been a single word about compatibility with graviton other than just use arm based workloads.

      You just can’t move to ARM because it’s cheaper, that’s just not going to work. You need to make the effort to move away from x86 and adopt applications that are arm native before making that jump. With a compatibility layer it doesn’t matter, that’s where the money is, if I can build a compatibility layer that translates an x86 binary to an arm binary, then I can move those workloads to the cheaper and more efficient server class.