u/Creeemi - originally from r/GenZhou
Also why are there two republics and not one? And was/is there really genocide in Donbas? I know about the 2014 fascist led coup by NATO aligned neo nazis and all that, but I dont really understand about the situatoin in east Ukraine, except that they are mostly russian speaking and have pro russian sentiments (which the west ukrainians dont like).

Edit: Also what exactly is Minsk II, why do people say its dead and who broke it and why?

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    u/parentis_shotgun - originally from r/GenZhou
    Do you have that article? I’d love to add it to my docs.

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      u/PaiosFranen - originally from r/GenZhou
      Sure thing comrade.

      Transcript of Victoria Nulands leaked phone call: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957?fbclid=IwAR21mF44ZNB_zxgrJklEAUkHUEKXIRLHn5YfMAWARxuDPKzwTWSrM-jSfQc

      Article on the leaked phone call by estonian foreign minister (not president, i was wrong): https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/03/05/leaked-eu-officials-speculate-kiev-snipers-acted-on-protesters-orders/

      Its also western media so the idiot libs cant say iTs rUsSiAn pRoPaGaNdA

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      u/PaiosFranen - originally from r/GenZhou
      Also just to add on this, the US using sniper attacks on protesters to stage a color revolution isnt something new, there is in fact a strong precedent for this. The event that triggered the violent ousting and murder of Nicolae Ceausescu (communist president of romania) in 1989 was a sniper attack against peaceful protesters in Bucharest while Ceausescu was giving a speech aimed at reconciliation between government and protesters. The event was caught live on TV during Ceausescus speech, and you can clearly see that Ceausescu is genuinely confused and worried as halfway through his speech shots are heard and people start panicking. After this event Ceausescu was quickly overthrown. He was immediately arrested by order of his own generals and executed immediately along with his wife Elena. He was not allowed to explain his version of the events to the public before being killed. Afterwards, the generals and communist party officials who had betrayed him became the new rulers and oligarchs of the modern day “free” and “democratic” Romania.

      Now, although as far as i know there is no conclusive evidence that this was a CIA plot, it seems very likely to me. Some speculate that there was also KGB involvement in this under orders of Gorbachev, since Ceausescu was one of the most vocal opponents of perestroika.

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        u/Neat_Association7949 - originally from r/GenZhou
        Isn’t there also evidence that there were unidentified snipers involved during the 1993 constitutional crisis in Russia?

        Seems like this comes straight out of the CIA’s playbook. Especially when we consider the overwhelmingly pro western shift as a result, it’s almost certain that snipers weren’t the entirety of US influence.