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        9 months ago

        Well to be fully honest, freedom fighters and terrorists are the same thing, just from two perspectives. The average afghani villager probably won’t consider their current government terrorists, even if a large part of the western world does.

        One man’s terrrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.

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          9 months ago

          An example of what you’re saying is the pkk in Turkey. Turkey calls them terrorists, while a lot of people still view them as a party fighting for freedom. But the pkk and it’s armed wing have never committed indiscriminate mass massacres of civilians. The endgoal of the pkk is also not the total destruction of the Turks, but rather the self determination of the Kurds.

          Hamas on the other hand has as endgame the total genocide of Jews and has no qualms in indiscriminately massacring civilians.

          About Hamas there is no nuance: they are genocidal terrorists.

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      9 months ago

      Since she was joking about civilians executions, I think they were pro go fuck yourself mia

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        9 months ago

        Anyone that gets their geopolitical opinions from a pornstar has some serious self reflecting to do. Firing her, or leaving her employeed, will make little difference in the world.

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        9 months ago

        Since she was joking about civilians executions…

        Except she wasn’t. That’s the line the media is pushing but, if you actually read what she wrote -

        “Can someone please tell the freedom fighters in Palestine to flip their phones and film horizontal.”

        there’s no reference, direct or inferred, to Hamas or civilian executions. The propaganda machine is working overtime.

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            9 months ago

            Any of the civilians in the Gaza prison camp that documents the situation could be reasonably called a freedom fighter.

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            9 months ago

            Here’s an article that slightly better explains the situation.

            She wrote…

            “I just want to make it clear that this statement in no way shape or form is enticing spread of violence, I specifically said freedom fighters because that’s what the Palestinian citizens are… fighting for freedom every day.”

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      9 months ago

      Pro-Palestine. One of her posts was ambiguous - "Can someone please tell the freedom fighters in Palestine to flip their phones and film horizontal.”

      The media propaganda machine was more than happy to pretend that was directed to Hamas, and then went on to fabricate that it was in reference to civilian executions, but it’s all 100% bullshit.

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        9 months ago

        If at a time when terrorists of Hamas are releasing a ton videos of their terror attacks, you say "Can someone please tell the freedom fighters in Palestine to flip their phones and film horizontal.”, then you are calling those terrorists freedom fighters. And if you call terrorists freedom fighters, then you are tacitly supporting those terrorists and their acts of terror. Especially if you do this right after one of the most brutal attacks against civilians that we have seen in the last few years.

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          9 months ago

          You can assume that’s what she meant, but you don’t actually know that - you’re just putting words into someone’s mouth. She even clarified later that’s exactly what she DIDN’T mean. This is also a time when Israel is bombing largely defenseless citizens. If you’re going to make assumptions about the intent of a statement, it’s also valid to assume she’s referring to this.

          Not every Palestinian is a member or supporter of Hamas, and not every person who fights for the freedom of the Palestinians is a member or supporter of Hamas.