I watched it recently for the first time, and I really don’t get why it’s so loved. IMDB rates it as the second-best movie of all time, but it seems far worse than that to me. I like most old movies and see their hype, but The Godfather didn’t do it for me. What am I missing?

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    This could be a case of the Sienfeld is not funny trope

    A movie or other work of media is quite revolutionary when it is released, it gets copied so much that many of its features become common in later projects. Then someone goes back to the original and thinks, Why was everyone so impressed with this?

    Citizen Cane is another example.

    Or:

    It could be that you personally don’t like the movie. Taste is not universal and not everyone likes everything.

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      Everyone who’s ever said that that spends a significant enough time around me changes their mind. Most of the folks that said it had either only seen it as children or never watched it once reaching a point in life that makes the show so relatable.

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    It’s a masterclass in acting, cinematography, and soundtracking. Not only that, but Mario Puzo’s novel which came out shortly before the movie was produced was a smash hit.

    In the 70s, movies didn’t look like The Godfather. They looked like weird objective cameras put on a tripod and just filming actors, with not as much thought put into the “feel” of the film. FFC (as well as other directors such as Hitchcock and Kubrick) essentially invented modern cinematography. Remember watching Avatar for the first time? It was kind of like that for movie going audiences.

    It was always hailed as an “epic drama” so you have to kind of temper your expectations based off that. It’s not a “murder a minute” gangster flick like a Scorsese picture.

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    My theory is that The Godfather suffers from pioneer syndrome. It was incredibly modern at the time of its release, with ultra-naturalistic acting and new techniques of cinematography. Which everyone proceeded to copy. So that now it looks like just a decent film, maybe from the 80s. But at the time it was a breakthrough. That’s what it’s getting the credit for.

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    If you don’t get it, you don’t get it, and that’s fine.

    From someone who’s went through film school:

    It’s a great movie. I wouldn’t call it second ever, but it’s up there. The cinematography is some of the best put to film, the writing is excellent, and the acting is phenomenal. I love the music as well, personally. Mafia stories are/were big hits for film in general, dating back even to the black and white era.

    In simple terms: basically everything about it is made better than your average film, and if there’s something you specifically like about films (music, cinematography, etc.) It’s usually an easy example to point to for a quality example of said thing

    But yeah, there are too many movies in existence to put any real stock on “x best movie of all time” things

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    It’s better if you watch other movies from the same time and a bit earlier so you can appreciate the direction and cinematography. Comparing it to modern films is akin to comparing modern games to Half Life 1. You lose something without the context of the contemporaries of the time.

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    Honestly, I think time hurts the movie. Coppola is excellent at his craft. It’s cinematically pretty (though aged) Pacino and Brando nailed it, but the content is no longer relevant. The movie is over 50 years old, it’s not paced for the appetite of this decade. It’s a big, complicated, dark, slow burning movie as a lot of the stuff from the 70’s and 80’s was. At the time the subject matter was fresh-ish, There was still a lot of interest in the Mafia and almost nothing of quality on the topic had been published since the 30’s. If was absolutely the best, for it’s time.

    You’re not alone in your feelings on the flick. As some have said, Part II was better, but if you really didn’t care much for Part I, you shouldn’t expect to love part II.

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      Movie pacing has changed a lot. I remember as a kid or even an adult, trying to watch movies from the 70s, and even if I was enjoying it, they moved soooo slooow. Fast forward and I’m trying to share my favorite movies from the 90s and IF it can keep their attention for more than a few minutes, I find myself thinking “I remember this being better.”

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        I have a very difficult time getting my kids to watch most of my most favorite things because the hook doesn’t come in the first 5 minutes.

        Ghostbusters, man, I’m sitting there anxious for them to get to the library so i kids don’t check out before they even see a ghost.

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    Please read John Truby’s book “The Anatomy of Genres”, and have your mind BLOWN by all the psychology in the different 14 Genres of story, dominating our cultures throughout the world, now…

    It will make fiction in book AND movie form sooo much richer for you, and it will make other-people much-more-understandable, as well…

    I’m autistic, am NOT likely to ever watch another movie in my life ( waaay too overwhelming ), but now I understand story so much better…

    Truby’s got a special place in his heart for both Godfather I & II.

    With reason, his explanations show.

    There are an amazing number of awesome stories identified in that book, as examples demonstrating this, or that, aspect of story…

    Please read it from beginning to end, so the explanations ( which build on each-other ) weave into the whole, properly ( instead of just hitting 2 chapters & not getting why it doesn’t make as much sense as I’m suggesting it does ).

    The only significant error in the book worth noting, is the misunderstanding of Comedy:

    Improbably-violated-expectations is the PROPER definition of it, and there is no requirement for any “drop”, which seems an American subset of humour.

    Salut, Namaste, & Kaizen, eh?

    ( :

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      I appreciate book recommendations as much as the next person, but just a book recommendation without answering the question isn’t super helpful. I’m not going to read a book before I continue scrolling.

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      It’s the end result of pushing everyone away for the sole pursuit of power. It’s an old man realizing the life that he was trying to recreate (his father’s life), is nothing but a twisted version of the real thing.

      It’s supposed to be depressing because the movie is in dialogue with the two that came before it.

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      Many people say that Sofia Coppola ruined the movie for them, but IMO it’s more so the stark contrast between a young/middle aged Michael coming into his own in the 1st 2 movies, and a senior citizen Michael regretful of his choices in the final act. The party comes to a close and we’re reminded of the terminus of all things.

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    I watched it pretty recently and even watched it twice in a single day. I still think it’s a great film in terms of narrative and cinematography. The dialogue and editing (especially the baptism sequence) were also very effective.

    I wouldn’t trust any claim that “X movie is the greatest of all time” however. Movies are highly subjective and I wouldn’t trust IMDb’s top list to decide what movies are great. Most of their top movies are from Hollywood.

    If you didn’t like The Godfather, then that’s actually okay. I know other people who didn’t like it.

    edit: By the way, if you’re looking for another good Marlon Brando movie, check out Queimada. I think a lot of people here on Lemmy might like this film.

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    It’s subtle and kinda moody. It also has some nice performances from Pacino and Brando. I think for me, I liked the moodiness and vibe of it. It felt old in a way that fit the subject matter and its time (late 40s early 50s). Also the basic story is nice. I wouldn’t be surprised if it resonates more with people who have or seen similar family dynamics where it really does suck everyone in.

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    I love The Godfather. But I don’t get the hype behind Pulp Fiction. It’s alright I guess

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      Pulp fiction was my jam. It wasn’t cookie cutter. It didn’t just start at the end, it wrapped around a bit. Unexpected things happened. Where’s it going next? WTF knows, Quentin goes wherever he wants. The dialog was unusual for the time, intentionally unpolished. It wasn’t a bunch of big named actors trying to make you believe they were in the scenes, they were there to take the scenes over the top. In an age where everything was honestly kinda boring, Tarantino put this flick outside the box. But that’s his thing, the scenes are there to look good, the dialog is there to be memorable, the overall story is not all that compelling and the the scenes are barely stitched together.

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          Aah, not everything is for everyone. It was a bigger deal when it was new.

          You’d be better to experience new things than trying something you don’t enjoy with new lenses.

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      What I really liked about Pulp Fiction is how much better it gets in the days after you’ve seen it for the first time. A confusing mess of a story that you piece together after the fact. I enjoyed Memento for similar reasons.

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    I don’t get the hype either, but maybe it gets better in the second half? I’ve never managed to sit all the way through it.

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      IMHO, while most fans of the series say Part 1 is the best, Part 2 with De Niro as Young Vito is arguably far superior. The first movie is quite dry and you really have to be paying attention to names and conversations, while the 2nd movie has a lot more going for it dynamically and is easier to follow.