Didn’t know where to post this, so hopefully this is the right spot. Please boycott Brave. I’ve recently learned that not only is their CEO bad, but their fanbase is toxic, too. I will no longer be using Brave for that reason.
Didn’t know where to post this, so hopefully this is the right spot. Please boycott Brave. I’ve recently learned that not only is their CEO bad, but their fanbase is toxic, too. I will no longer be using Brave for that reason.
Elaborate please? I’m here just for the open source project
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At this point, I don’t care as long as it’s open sourced and it’s good to me to use. Hell, lemmy is made by communist which I am very opposed of (I really like capitalism with socialism safety net more). Political views and shit like that doesn’t budge me anymore from using the product. Maybe I would value more in the way they treat their product, like microsoft’s way of handling their open source project as a way to EEE.
In this comment I explain most of my issues with Brave.
You realise the guy created JavaScript eh? Are you refusing to use that too? Seems a bit hypocritical to be candid. 🙄
JS is by far the worst language I have ever used besides PHP, and yes, I tend to avoid JS a lot given how Much it is used for tracking (though disabling it entirely breaks most webaites.).
Also, as said in the other comment, using JS doesn’t give Brendan Eich any money so I’m not concerned about that.
I’d argue that while PHP may be worse on a technical level, JS is a worse overall ecosystem because if you develop for the web, you’re forced to use it.
It gives him free advertising to use his programs.
I don’t understand what you mean by that.
Celebrity power leads to purchasing of products associated with that celebrity.
Brendan Eich is by no mean a celebrity for having invented JS. I had never heard of him before Brave.
Didn’t realise the world revolved around you and that you decide who is a celebrity lol
You’ll find that it’s one of the most hated programming languages around here. People say (with good reason) that its implementation is terrible compared to other programming languages, and its over-adoption (being used when it’s unnecessary) is commonly accused of being a major factor of the badly performing and resource hungry websites of the modern internet. It also enables the vast majority of invasive tracking tactics.
As another user also mentioned, it’s a logical fallacy to directly compare a product that has clear alternatives, like brave, and a product that everyone is practically forced to use, like JavaScript, when talking about disliking the creator of those things.
Finally, as far as I know, Brendan Eich is no longer involved with the development of the JavaScript language standards, but he’s currently the CEO of Brave.
Your final point is a fair point to this argument.
Using JavaScript doesn’t put money in his pocket, using Brave does.
He has a permanent advertising spend for free by being the founder of the most popular web programming language.
You proved the point yourself. Not using javascript isn’t gonna change a thing.
Also no one really thinks about that guy when they hear javascript lmao
Apparently it’s acceptable to use anecdotal evidence to support one’s argent here (based on other retorts on this thread), so I will refute your point by saying that I do think of Brendan Eich when I think of JavaScript in the same way I think of Guido for Python and Linus for linux.
You haven’t refuted anything since my point was in the first sentence I wrote, not the second one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
This isn’t whataboutism…
It’s an appeal to hypocrisy. “But what about JavaScript!?”, while completely ignoring the vast world of differences between what has became an essential web technology over the last 25 or so years (not always loved by everyone), versus a gimmicky web browser.
Ahh. I was referring to the whataboutism fallacy from the perspective of it’s use to attack third world countries on claiming double standards. You’re pointing out that me raising a potential double standard hurts my argument, which if you read that wikipedia article is in of itself, a fallacy. Whataboutism is a lame logical fallacy and by lame I mean it doesn’t hold a lot of legitimacy in discourse.
You’re going to great lengths to try to find some way to defend a piece of shit human being. You can stop at any time, but I’m sure you’ll keep going. I hope you manage to find the bottom of the hole you’re so vigorously trying to find, hopefully you’ll find it before you realize how dumb you’re presenting yourself as being.
Not really. You’re acting quite emotional calling Brendan Eich a piece of shit human being without ever having read his arguments or listened to him speak. I believe you’re apart of the “woke” mob, that piles on people before reading up on them and making your own judgement. Ie. You seem to be a victim of cancel culture. I have a good understanding of the issue and I’m enjoying pointing out the silliness of the arguments being presented in this thread that seem to be trying to invoke cancel culture on Mr. Eich. Wait till you find out that the lead developer of LibreOffice is a devout Christian that has different views than you and I. Or you know, 99% of the people outside of your american bubble with different cultural views than you. What goofs the Americans have become going through your weird zeitgeist.
I made a post on r/browsers over on reddit and someone said to go back to firefox, they are wokies like me. Plus a couple other comments as well.