• magnetosphere@kbin.social
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      9 months ago

      When you limit yourself to specific incidents, it’s easy to judge right and wrong. Over the course of years, though, neither side can claim the moral high ground.

      Overall, this is one of the most pointless, wasteful, and inhumane conflicts in human history.

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        Personally, when dealing with two groups who claim the same land, I side with the one that’s been there the longest, not the one that shouldered it’s way in, demanded a room, and started shooting anyone who told them to leave.

        But the US kind of has a penchant for that.

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      9 months ago

      Killing - no matter the victim is inhuman.

      Believing one side has the right to kill while the other must take it, is pretty gross.

      “Slaughtering civilians in the streets” is precisely what the IDF does on the regular, just so you know. It’s hard to imagine any group of people would live under military occupation for 70+ years after being forced to leave their homes for refugee camps without the desire to fight for their freedom.

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        There is almost nothing in this world that is more human than killing other humans. History is full of it. Religious texts are full of it. It’s what humans are best at. Is it awful? Sure, but it’s an act as human as it gets.

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          9 months ago

          Point made. Sadly it’s true. Especially today as we spend trillions on technology designed to kill.

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          Sorry, but I have been an advocate for Palestinian rights for years. I’m not just shilling out propaganda on the day of a massacre. As I type this, the confirmed death tolls have Israelis near 100 while Palestinian deaths are near double that. So if you want to start talking about massacres, just so far today Israel has caused more death, let alone the days, weeks, months, years and decades prior to today.

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      9 months ago

      The IDF was just rounding up innocent civilians this week, you gotta look at a bigger picture than just this morning.

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      9 months ago

      Agreed. Which is why the IDF also needs to be eliminated.

      Both sides are and have been commiting atroscious acts against civilians and neither side can be excused for their inhuman actions.

      • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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        But in that consideration the power imbalance cannot be ignored. The IDF is a highly modern, most likely even nuclearly armed army, wheras the people inside Gaza are denied access to such simple things as building materials by the Israeli Apartheid.