In a discussion of possible responses to this conspiracy theory, he wrote that the “New Right now often discusses a Red Caesar, by which it means a leader whose post-Constitutional rule will restore the strength of his people”.
Dictator, they want a dictator
They’ve always wanted a dictator. This is just their latest euphemism for it.
When I was an evangelical as a teenager I independently came to the conclusion that the best form or rule was a monarchy. This is what Christianity taught me to think, and it’s what evangelicals think, even if they won’t admit it. Their whole worldview is predicated on a strongman ruling and they can’t separate that from reality.
For me it was the realization of how much traditional media relies on the “father knows best” trope because they need the guidance. In reality, they like the abuse.
All this talk is why I consider a lot of New Vegas memes for Caesar’s Legion to be a clear marker for neo-fascist thinking. People laugh at me for warning them, it’s just a game.
People laugh at me for warning them, it’s just a game.
This is a huge part of fascist propaganda, and it’s why the Proud Boys chose that name: it sounds silly and benign, so it lets them fly under the radar.
The swastika was a universally positive symbol until the Nazis smeared their ideology on it; now it’s a powerful symbol of white-hot ignorant hatred.
Anakin Skywalker agrees
It goes to show you how unhinged these people are.
They know they can’t say what they’re really thinking because they know exactly that their beliefs are morally wrong, are unacceptable, impossible, unrealistic, unstable and mentally unsound.
But if you describe it in a new way, use code words, anagrams, acronyms, special dates or numbers or just some dumb phrase … somehow your dumb unhinged political ideas can make sense and they express their unstable logic in public.
It’s outright fascism … it’s the same ideas millions of people died fighting against or were killed by in the second world war. And it’s fascism that is being casually being promoted and placed in the public forum as a discussion point that can be debated.
The problem is not that there are people advocating for fascism … the problem is that we are allowing these fascist supporters such a strong and prominent voice.
Call them out for who they are … fascist scum.
Not sure anyone should be running Julius Caesar as a poster child for a political movement given that his ended with a bunch of people literally stabbing him in the back.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Julius_Caesar
That’s ironic considering I’m about 99% sure that’s how Donald Trump’s stranglehold over the GOP is going to end as well.
Iconic if they schedule it for March too.
Trump’s first trial date actually is in March 😅
Et tu, Eric?
I’m Eric!
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It’s the same with those who want America to be a Christian Theocracy. They all assume that their flavor of Christianity will be in charge. In reality, whichever version of Christianity becomes the “official religion of the Theocratic States of America” would impose its practices on them. Then, they’d complain that they weren’t allowed to practice their religion freely. (If only there was some Constitutional Amendment or something which guaranteed Freedom of Religion.)
And Fascism is especially cannibalistic; one has to be a special kind of stupid to think their life would improve under such a regime.
Especially if you’re already a billionaire.
they all have killed off the people who brought them to power or who could be perceived as any kind of threat.
So you’re saying they don’t understand they are the Brown Shirts and will meet the same fate?
Mussolini and the PNF also loved the Roman Empire, what a coincidence!
Republicans: “Pasta is unmanly and evil.”
When conservatives give up on democratic views they turn to dictatorship. It’s a tale as old as time.
Fascism is the bimbofication of ancient Rome
Red Caesarism? Which would imply that it is OK to stick a whole family cutlery set into Trumps back?
“Et tu, Chesebro?”
Don Jr.: “Friends, Americans, countrymen: lend me your retirement savings!”
Yuck, it’s that “King Cyrus” bullshit all over again.
How can any true independent or even moderate republican look at these goons and think anything other than “HELL NO”???
okay if you know anything about Roman history this is not even code its just straight up saying they want to overthrow the government. It’s like tankies saying 1917, read fucking books people
So… the fasces was an ancient Etruscan symbol that the Romans adopted. After the fall of the Roman empire, the symbol became associated with them and their power and the word itself gained power. It changed a little bit though. It became fascism. So there is a direct line between the oppressive Roman empire and modern fascism.
Let’s just give them a spot to let them do their shit, like the midwest or something. We can call it the Caesarian Section.
Long way to go for that joke but I’m still proud of it.
I’m not too worried about a Caesarian coup just yet. Outgoing 4-star General Mark Milley made a point of publicly emphasizing that US military members take an oath to defend the US Constitution, not a person, not even the country/population.
Caesarism clearly intends to overthrow the constitutional order, so I don’t see the military supporting a Caesarian coup, at least not yet. And you can’t overthrow the US constitutional order without the support of the US military.
The transition from Roman Republic to Empire was preceded by decades of civil war and involved armies raised by and loyal to specific warlords. Rome also had a long tradition of legally electing dictators during emergencies. The US has no such traditions or mechanisms. A lot would have to change before the US got to that point.
More like Orange Cheeserism.
