Scientists confirm that the first black hole ever imaged is actually spinning::The first black hole humanity has ever imaged has also provided us with what researchers are calling “unequivocal evidence” that black holes spin.

  • AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    The title kind of misses the point: of course it spins; it would be remarkable if it didn’t.

    The really interesting bit is how relativistic frame dragging is causing its spin axis to precess.

    (Also, the illustration conflicts with the description: it shows the whole accretion disk wobbling instead of just the jets.)

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        9 months ago

        The black hole and the stuff outside it constitute a single system, and within that system, angular momentum is conserved. So as objects cross the event horizon, their angular momentum is transferred to the black hole.

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        9 months ago

        Isn’t most everything spinning? Seems like having zero angular momentum would be rare and remarkable. I’m not even sure how exactly to define zero momentum in terms of reference frames.

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        9 months ago

        If you’re asking that then you first need to ask what the distinction between the two is. and further does it even make sense for one to spin and not the other

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          9 months ago

          Is there not a distinction? I assume the singularity at its center has different properties than the matter outside of that point.

          Note: I have a rudimentary understanding of what black holes and their components are.

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            9 months ago

            Even if there is heterogeneity inside the system, that does not indicate severability or that the whole system is made up of smaller constituent systems.

      • KidsTryThisAtHome@lemm.ee
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        9 months ago

        It’s in space and everything is relative, how do we know *everything else" isn’t just spinning around the black hole? 🤔

        • Devion@feddit.nl
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          9 months ago

          Because that would require a centripetal force on everything else, which obviously isn’t the case.

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        Frame dragging is when matter drags spacetime along with it. Roughly think of a the wake of a boat disturbing other things in the water.

        The misalignment of the black holes axis of spin, and the axis of the accretion disk is causing interesting frame dragging effects.