No civilian “deserves” guns. I am all for cranking that up so that even Billy G and Bezos can’t afford ammo.
Anything which lowers the number of firearms in circulation, even if over time, is good.
And the vast majority of firearms are not for self defense. They are security blankets that people carry everywhere that rapidly escalates even the most banal of interactions. Hell, we had an actual escaped murderer in PA the other week and he managed to steal a gun right in front of an armed home owner. So…
That’s all well and good, maybe guns are inherently problematic. But since no one is paying attention to my wording I’ll just say it:
Right wingers and neo-fascists commit the majority of gun violence in this country and will absolutely never give them up. They are not the poor and unsophisticated rednecks you’re told they are, they tend to be richer than average and their brand of violence is calculated. Many of them are current and former police officers and therefore won’t take their friends’ guns away just because the law says so.
If you’re poor you’re less likely to be white and straight and therefore more likely to be harassed or killed by the aforementioned groups.
This is not me saying that it’s time to give up on gun control laws or that we need more guns. Fewer guns in the US will mean a more peaceful country. I’m saying that laws that simply make it more expensive to buy and own guns will not deter violent people from buying them because they impose no restrictions on them.
Can you support your assertion that right wingers and neo-fascists commit the majority of gun violence in this country? I realize how much of the info around this subject is propaganda so I like to look at the data whenever I can find it?
This is not Red Dawn and you are not the Wolverines.
You know what happens when people of color and leftists arm themselves? The cops INSTANTLY go full force and murder everyone they can. When the nazis do it? They praise a kid who just executed two people and actively refuse to get involved.
People love to cite that a lot of our gun control laws are because black people armed themselves. And that is true. But when push comes to shove? One protest gets bottles of water and cheers. The other gets the national guard.
And, as we have seen in Ukraine: A poorly trained army with crappy body armor gets murdered en masse by even a halfway decent military with modern equipment. And… historically, the military protects the white supremacists.
So no, guns are not helping in the slightest and we do not fucking need more. And to use civil rights as an excuse to play with guns and watch kids die is just disgusting.
The era of the armed militia accomplishing anything ended around the same time that the fundamental unit on the battlefield became a squad rather than a platoon/division. When one person holed up with an assault rifle can halt an advance… and said advance can call in an air strike to get rid of said one person, the idea of getting in some time at the range to protect yourself against an armed force went out the window.
I can’t wait to see the faces of all you freedom hating dipshits when this and many other gun control efforts are appealed and fail the new Bruen standard.
HA HA motherfuckers. Gun rights are winning no matter what you try.
LOL what a swing and a miss. I read all of Thompson’s books in the 90s, probably before you were born. Except Kingdom of Fear, that came out this century.
The day a conservative talks to me about freedom and I don’t laugh in their face is the day I’ve gone completely fucking stupid.
Conservatives have zero credibility on freedom.
Even the Second Amendment is a liberal invention, which conservatives had to rewrite and ignore history, and even certain parts of the Second Amendment itself, in order to fetishize it as they do.
I’m not a “conservative” as the neocon and trumptard groups have taken over that label with their brands of madness.
I’m an Independant who pretty much hates all of the politicians we have. I only vote for those who do not propose to limit any of our freedoms.
As an Independant and having been politically active since the prior century, I have mountains of credibility on the subject of Freedom. I was here protesting the PATRIOT Act, the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, the endless War on Terror, and the War on Drugs probably when you were a baby. I was against those wars when Obama continued them too. I voted against Trump 3 times.
So yeah, go on about my credibility if you want to but you have nothing on me.
Well, you’re taking a modern conservative view on the Second Amendment. That view is based on lies. So no you don’t have credibility as far as that is concerned.
No civilian “deserves” guns. I am all for cranking that up so that even Billy G and Bezos can’t afford ammo.
Anything which lowers the number of firearms in circulation, even if over time, is good.
And the vast majority of firearms are not for self defense. They are security blankets that people carry everywhere that rapidly escalates even the most banal of interactions. Hell, we had an actual escaped murderer in PA the other week and he managed to steal a gun right in front of an armed home owner. So…
That’s all well and good, maybe guns are inherently problematic. But since no one is paying attention to my wording I’ll just say it:
Right wingers and neo-fascists commit the majority of gun violence in this country and will absolutely never give them up. They are not the poor and unsophisticated rednecks you’re told they are, they tend to be richer than average and their brand of violence is calculated. Many of them are current and former police officers and therefore won’t take their friends’ guns away just because the law says so.
If you’re poor you’re less likely to be white and straight and therefore more likely to be harassed or killed by the aforementioned groups.
This is not me saying that it’s time to give up on gun control laws or that we need more guns. Fewer guns in the US will mean a more peaceful country. I’m saying that laws that simply make it more expensive to buy and own guns will not deter violent people from buying them because they impose no restrictions on them.
Can you support your assertion that right wingers and neo-fascists commit the majority of gun violence in this country? I realize how much of the info around this subject is propaganda so I like to look at the data whenever I can find it?
Most shootings are in big cities. Please don’t spread your brain washing.
This is not Red Dawn and you are not the Wolverines.
You know what happens when people of color and leftists arm themselves? The cops INSTANTLY go full force and murder everyone they can. When the nazis do it? They praise a kid who just executed two people and actively refuse to get involved.
People love to cite that a lot of our gun control laws are because black people armed themselves. And that is true. But when push comes to shove? One protest gets bottles of water and cheers. The other gets the national guard.
And, as we have seen in Ukraine: A poorly trained army with crappy body armor gets murdered en masse by even a halfway decent military with modern equipment. And… historically, the military protects the white supremacists.
So no, guns are not helping in the slightest and we do not fucking need more. And to use civil rights as an excuse to play with guns and watch kids die is just disgusting.
The era of the armed militia accomplishing anything ended around the same time that the fundamental unit on the battlefield became a squad rather than a platoon/division. When one person holed up with an assault rifle can halt an advance… and said advance can call in an air strike to get rid of said one person, the idea of getting in some time at the range to protect yourself against an armed force went out the window.
It’s about rebuilding schools with money from people who buy guns and bullets, instead of general tax money.
I can’t wait to see the faces of all you freedom hating dipshits when this and many other gun control efforts are appealed and fail the new Bruen standard.
HA HA motherfuckers. Gun rights are winning no matter what you try.
Lmao. Freedom hating. Gotta have that freedom to murder each other. How would we survive without it.
If you attack the rights of Americans, you must hate freedom. I support all of our rights, for all Americans, and if you don’t then you suck.
Oh look, an edgy teen who read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (or let’s be real, probably just watched the movie) for the first time.
I bet you were inspired to be a “gonzo journalist” too, right?
LOL what a swing and a miss. I read all of Thompson’s books in the 90s, probably before you were born. Except Kingdom of Fear, that came out this century.
You think this is some kind of win lol, it just makes you look more sad and cringe.
Who cares what you think? Your lame comments won’t stop me from doing what I do.
And what is it that “you do”, bud? Agitprop for far right causes? Causing chaos for fun?
Or is it for pay? I’d hope you’re at least being paid for all this work. You wouldn’t believe what Soros is giving me…
The day a conservative talks to me about freedom and I don’t laugh in their face is the day I’ve gone completely fucking stupid.
Conservatives have zero credibility on freedom.
Even the Second Amendment is a liberal invention, which conservatives had to rewrite and ignore history, and even certain parts of the Second Amendment itself, in order to fetishize it as they do.
I’m not a “conservative” as the neocon and trumptard groups have taken over that label with their brands of madness.
I’m an Independant who pretty much hates all of the politicians we have. I only vote for those who do not propose to limit any of our freedoms.
As an Independant and having been politically active since the prior century, I have mountains of credibility on the subject of Freedom. I was here protesting the PATRIOT Act, the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, the endless War on Terror, and the War on Drugs probably when you were a baby. I was against those wars when Obama continued them too. I voted against Trump 3 times.
So yeah, go on about my credibility if you want to but you have nothing on me.
Well, you’re taking a modern conservative view on the Second Amendment. That view is based on lies. So no you don’t have credibility as far as that is concerned.
Imagine being this person ^
Oof…
I am that person, and I have a great life and am proud to support all rights for all Americans. If you don’t then you suck.
Imagine being the kind of fucking dumbass that would try to reduce any Rights that people have.
Right… But only when it comes to guns. Trans people though? They don’t deserve anything.
Nope, you’re making up absolute bullshit again. I said ALL RIGHTS FOR ALL AMERICANS you fucking asshole.