• hewhomustnotbegamed
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    3 years ago

    So, they are translating random social media posts that are pro-Russian and somehow this is how more than a billion Chinese people think? WTF?

    • pingveno@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      3 years ago

      It looks like their point is that censors are perfectly happy to censor the hell out of more liberal voices, but these posts are left up. It also notable that China’s state media has been far from neutral about the Russo-Ukrainian War, even as China has tried to curate a more neutral stance for an international audience.

        • pingveno@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          10
          ·
          edit-2
          3 years ago

          You’re completely missing my point. China is talking out both sides of its mouth. When it does press releases for an international audience, it presents itself as this holier-than-the-West neutral party that respects territorial integrity of all countries. When it comes to its own citizens, they make it clear that China has sided with Russia and doesn’t give a hen’s tooth about Ukraine.

          • Yeah but that’s not unique, America talks a lot about the Uighur population in China but then goes right ahead and actually kills millions of muslims. I think a country talking out of both sides of their mouth to avoid war and difficulty is much more worthy than a country talking out of both sides of their mouth to create a dominion over the world.

            • pingveno@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              8
              ·
              3 years ago

              Regardless, the claim is still true. Also, the US media has been plenty critical of the US government for civilian casualties in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere.

              • If you were alive at the time I’m sure you remember how against the war the news was. CNN, famously against the war. MSNBC, famously against the war. Fox News, famously against the war. Sure, now they admit it was a mistake to kill millions for checks notes “democracy” after mothers are already left without their sons. No thanks, I’d rather the approach of China. Can you remind me again how many countries China has invaded since, oh let’s say 1960.

    • abbenm@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      3 years ago

      Of all the ways you could possibly interpret it, you deliberately chose the most most ridiculous interpretation.

      A more reasonable interpretation is to note that internet atmosphere of highly censored political discourse, comments spreading fake news, comments encouraging warmongering and comments derisive of Ukraine have a place within political discourse on China’s internet.

      That this is permitted a place on the spectrum of acceptable opinion is the point. It’s easier to caricature the point by exaggerating it and then disagreeing with the exaggeration.

      • hewhomustnotbegamed
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        13
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        3 years ago

        Was I exaggerating? The article said that they’re translating social media posts.

        Also, I always thought China and Russia were the countries doing the most censoring, but this war has opened my eyes, only for me to see the blindfold over them.

        In the last week, the USA has condemned India and Turkey for human rights violations and now there’s the whole Shanghai debacle. The common denominator is these countries’ refusal to sanction Russia, according to the USA’s wishes.

        West media is a mass censorship/propaganda machine, akin to China’s and Russia, and social media is a cesspool of stupidity all over the world.

  • Bronstein_Tardigrade
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 years ago

    Any time I see the source of information is labeled anonymous, as in “anonymous intelligence sources” or, in this case, “anonymous twitter users”, I know I’m about to read some bullshit.