Apple removes app created by Andrew Tate::Legal firm had said Real World Portal encouraged misogyny and there was evidence to suggest it is an illegal pyramid scheme

    • hyperhopper@lemmy.ml
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      9 months ago

      I’m aware of it. But this is not the same as letting Nazis hang out in your bar turning it into a Nazi bad, you don’t have to even interact, see, or be aware of the shitty things that others do with their own devices.

      • Grant_M@lemmy.ca
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        9 months ago

        Apple is a private company that doesn’t want to promote this rapist. It’s their right.

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          9 months ago

          Owning black people was also the right of plantation owners. And Nazis said they had a lot of rights as well…

          If you think that something being a legal right means it morally should be, you’re on the wrong side of history.

          • Grant_M@lemmy.ca
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            9 months ago

            You’re comparing Apple to Nazis because they don’t want to be in business with a rapist scumbag?

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              9 months ago

              No, I’m saying just because we currently don’t regulate large corporations enough doesn’t mean they should have the right to fuck over anybody they want to

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                9 months ago

                As a privately owned company, they reserve the right to not support rapists.Stop advocating for a rapist.

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                  9 months ago

                  I don’t support rapists. That dude and people that want his app suck.

                  But everybody deserves to be able to run whatever software there want on their devices. And no company should be able to tell you what to do with things that you own.

                  • Grant_M@lemmy.ca
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                    9 months ago

                    Apple doesn’t have to provide a platform for a rapist. They have that right. Do you not support freedom?

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                  9 months ago

                  Dude nobody here is advocating for a rapist, period. We advocate for freedom of speech, and not just the limited one currently granted by the 1st amendment of the constitution of the USA.

                  As a privately owned (really, public) company, they do reserve those right. I believe that’s a mistake, and that the constitution should protect free speech even on those platforms, even though it currently doesn’t.

                  Edit: I don’t mean they should make it easy to install Tate’s app, mind you, just “possible”. Just allowing app sideloading like Android, behind a bunch of warnings and hoops to jump, would be enough.

                  • Grant_M@lemmy.ca
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                    9 months ago

                    So what you’re saying is the people at Apple have no freedom of speech, only rapists like Tate?

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                    9 months ago

                    We advocate for freedom of speech, and not just the limited one currently granted by the 1st amendment of the constitution of the USA.

                    “People should be able to say whatever they want without having to fear consequences” is a garbage take on “freedom of speech”. Even if you clarify it as “people be able to say whatever they want without having to fear consequences from large organizations”, it is still a garbage take.