AFAIK you are incorrect about everything above. It might be that the Signal client runs standalone, but it still requires the Android or iOS client as stated on their website:
Dino doesn’t claim to be a finished client and thus isn’t intended for “productive” use. What I wrote was specifically about the Conversations side, which as a fall-back to the default e2ee offers a non-encrypted connection with a HUGE red warning.
The info-sec handbook stuff is FUD and applies just the same way, and in fact even more so (due to the centralized and likely NSA compromised nature of it’s servers) to Signal and the like.
As for iOS, I suggest you actually read up on that stuff before believing Apple’s marketing BS.
Yes, you link it once with your Android phone and then it’s a client on its own with its on messaging queue on the server. So no, you are wrong and don’t actually know what you are talking about.
Anyway, I’m not an iOS user in any shape or form, but I recognize that it’s a good platform, and far better suited for normal people than the fragmented mess that Android is.
Oh, and just to show you more ignorance on your part: gajim.org is another desktop XMPP client that has existed since… 2004, and also doesn’t do OMEMO by default and also doesn’t make it obvious that you’re not doing OMEMO. If a 17 year old app isn’t production ready, what is?
Again, I am talking about Conversations. This is the same as with Signal or any other such chat service that only offers a single app. You are arguing as if the additional capabilities of XMPP make it worse, when in fact those make it better.
AFAIK you are incorrect about everything above. It might be that the Signal client runs standalone, but it still requires the Android or iOS client as stated on their website:
Dino doesn’t claim to be a finished client and thus isn’t intended for “productive” use. What I wrote was specifically about the Conversations side, which as a fall-back to the default e2ee offers a non-encrypted connection with a HUGE red warning.
The info-sec handbook stuff is FUD and applies just the same way, and in fact even more so (due to the centralized and likely NSA compromised nature of it’s servers) to Signal and the like.
As for iOS, I suggest you actually read up on that stuff before believing Apple’s marketing BS.
Yes, you link it once with your Android phone and then it’s a client on its own with its on messaging queue on the server. So no, you are wrong and don’t actually know what you are talking about.
Anyway, I’m not an iOS user in any shape or form, but I recognize that it’s a good platform, and far better suited for normal people than the fragmented mess that Android is.
Oh, and just to show you more ignorance on your part: gajim.org is another desktop XMPP client that has existed since… 2004, and also doesn’t do OMEMO by default and also doesn’t make it obvious that you’re not doing OMEMO. If a 17 year old app isn’t production ready, what is?
Again, I am talking about Conversations. This is the same as with Signal or any other such chat service that only offers a single app. You are arguing as if the additional capabilities of XMPP make it worse, when in fact those make it better.