Meredith Whittaker reaffirms that Signal would leave UK if forced by privacy bill::Meredith Whittaker, the president of the Signal Foundation, the organization that maintains the Signal messaging app, spoke about the U.K.'s controversial new privacy bill at TC Disrupt 2023.

  • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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    What are the governments around the world afraid of? Always so quick to go for overly invasive privacy laws. They should be afraid of the citizens, not the other war around.

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        I think they’re saying that they are supposed to be (i.e., this doesn’t need fixing). If they “fix” it, the people will be afraid of the government.

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    This is why I use, support, and promote the Signal Foundation. Thanks for what you do!

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    is there any privacy bill for the elected? I would love to have a view on their:

    • banks accounts
    • stocks
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      Which ones have inappropriate relationships with minors.

      And we know they exist. They keep telling us.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The Online Safety Bill, which was passed into law in September, includes a clause — clause 122 — that, depending on how it’s interpreted, could allow the U.K.’s communications regulator, Ofcom, to break the encryption of apps and services under the guise of making sure illegal material such as child sexual exploitation and abuse content is removed.

    Whittaker didn’t mince words in airing her fears about the Online Safety Bill’s implications.

    “We’re really worried about people in the U.K. who would live under a surveillance regime like the one that seems to be teased by the Home Office and others in the U.K.”

    Whittaker noted that Signal takes a number of steps to ensure its users remain anonymous regardless of the laws and regulations in their particular country.

    Asked onstage what data Signal’s handed over in the instances that it’s received search warrants, Whittaker said that it’s been limited to the phone number registered to a Signal account and the last time a user accessed their account.

    She pointed to reasons for optimism, like Meta planning to roll out end-to-end encryption on Facebook Messenger and Instagram in spite of the U.K.’s Online Safety Bill.


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    My one wonder is, what would banks use to securely provide access to their customers online? What about online stores for local small, medium, and large businesses? Or is this going to knly target messaging and social networks?

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      My one wonder is, what would banks use to securely provide access to their customers online?

      Considering that it would be illegal for banks to securely provide access to their customers online the answer is simple: they wouldn’t.

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      Given that the UK’s tech industry is strongly tied to Fintech, and without it utterly crumbles into becoming cheap support for the US, I hope there is some serious clapback from the likes of Monzo, Starling, and co.

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          I’m curious how such a ban works. Of course they’ll tell Google and Apple to stop distributing the apps, but can’t you just sideload the app? Or are they blocking some network connections at the country level, or filtering DNS?

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      There’s a difference between the spooks being able to read everyone’s messages and the ordinary police being able to do so. Assuming that Five Eyes or similar have a secret way of decrypting Signal messages, it won’t remain a secret if every drug dealer who uses Signal is swiftly arrested. (Even with the trick of parallel construction, postal inspectors magically getting lucky every time someone uses Signal would get suspicious pretty quickly.) If the spooks can read your Signal messages, they are compelled to ration that capability rather than burning it.

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      It doesn’t necessarily mean that. It could also be that they attempt to block the rise of new platforms, and by doing so limiting the amount of platforms that they have to compromise.