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How I learned to defeat fascism with the power of love:
Chapter one:
Realizing you cannot stop fascism with the power of love.Chapter two:
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What would “stopping fascism with the power of love” look like? Do you have a hypothetical example?
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This is like the 3rd or 4th comic from this artist with the same message, same punchline, and same structure. We get it, Jennie.
No, it’s literally the same comic being reposted over and over.
They had the meteor one too, so not 100% identical, just 99.99%
Do you (not you personally) though?
Yeah. The ones who are capable of getting it already got it before the comics were made. The ones who don’t get it are already lost. Nothing important is being done here. We could all go an entire century without the creation of even more more little bit of trite, sanctimonious political proselytization and the course of human development would be literally 100.0% identical because that’s what happens when you shovel your opinion into a hypersaturated market for that opinion.
You should make a comic about it.
Done, took about as long as these did I’m sure
Thought provoking. I’m ascending.
I learned that discourse has “saturated the market” which really only leaves violence or apathy.
It really makes you think.
Then filter/block her and move on instead of policing what she writes.
Block me and move on instead of policing what I removed about.
The problem with those panels, in my opinion, isn’t the defense of free speech itself, it’s ending the conversation with a defense of free speech. This shifts the discussion away from how awful those other ideas are and instead distracts people with a debate over free speech itself.
If you truly want to support a free marketplace of ideas you have to be an active participant, you can’t expect others to pick up the bullhorn for good in your place.
Ironically the ‘paradox’ of ‘Tolerance of intolerance’ kind of argues for people self-selecting into groups which is anti-thetical to the intent lol.
“free speech” is a thought-terminating cliche for people too lazy to come up with a real argument or plan to stop fascist rhetoric.
Its also a convient fig leaf for fascist movements so they can be defended while incubating in liberal societies
So is accusations of “troll”. Around here we prefer that
A society that values free speech rejects Mustache’s philosophy. He never gains enough of a following in panel 1, 2, or 3 to be able to enact panel 4.
As soon as we allow ourselves to silence someone, Mustache can use the same argument to justify silencing Black Shirt. When we allow ourselves to suppress an enemy of society, Mustache merely needs to suggest to us that Black Shirt is such an enemy.
The insidious part of fascism is that by the time we get to Panel 4, we are the ones carrying Black Shirt to the gallows.
I couldn’t have said it better.
You have dictatorships you would not identify stereotypically as fascist, yet they silence anyone dangerous by calling them a fascist. Oldest trick in the book.
A very simple test: A f*ing fascist could use the same comic to justify repressing communists in a fascist regime. It just has to replace those “fascists” believes by communist ones.
This is what worries me about large centralized platforms. They normalize the idea that offensive speakers should be silenced, or should be able to silence dissent. They shouldn’t. They should be challenged or ignored. You can block an individual, controlling what you listen to. You can urge others to ignore them. But it should be a cringeworthy act of authoritarianism to lay down a banhammer and block someone from speaking.
The offensive, intolerant asshole should not be banning dissenters; dissenters should not be banning assholes. Any banning anywhere should be seen as deeply troubling, and only done openly, publicly, and with the consent and agreement of the community.
Unilateral control over the process should be seen as fascism.
I am thrilled at the decentralized nature of Lemmy effectively eliminating that capability.
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FWIW, .world had nothing to do with your previous comment
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.world might be sending DMs when your stuff gets removed but that was removed by .ml mod
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Careful everyone, comics like these can spread dangerous ideas
Promises…
Remember that there is no paradox of tolerance if you treat it as a social contract instead of a moral issue: Those who do not abide by it are not protected by it.
This assumes there is some clearly defined line of what is intolerance that everyone agrees on. For a while at the company I worked at, just being a white male was considered “intolerant”, so they fired many of them. The irony was not lost on the employees. It was a very oppressive environment and I’m glad it recovered. It’s a famous company that aired some of this dirty laundry publically so you might be able to guess who it is.
Some people are black and white bigots like this comic, but people are stupid binary thinkers and call people out as intolerant who are not overtly bigoted or bigoted at all, but are of the wrong identity or associate with the wrong groups.
This comic is basically a straw man.
There is no paradox of tolerance if you treat it as a social contract. Those who do not abide by the contract are not protected by it.
Ideology reflects emotion. Angry people adopt angry ideology. Find a justification for anger and somebody to hate.
Cure the anger and the ideology disappears.
Note the nice uniforms. They don’t grow on trees. These guys are funded.
