Whenever you criticize authoritarianism as practiced by groups or individuals that position themselves on the left, at least one person shows up to invalidate your criticism, without really engaging with what you brought up, and that not by mere logical reasoning, but by applying an ideological believe that thrives for some sort of unity, and just pushes that believe with what ever logical fallacy suits at the moment best.
I don’t get it. What’s the problem with criticism against authoritarianism in an anarchist forum?
Whenever you criticize [alarmist diversionary out-group think] as practiced by groups or individuals that position themselves on the left, at least one person shows up to invalidate your criticism, without really engaging with what you brought up, and that not by mere logical reasoning, but by applying an ideological believe that thrives for some sort of [holier than you attitude], and just pushes that believe with what ever logical fallacy suits at the moment best.
I don’t get it. What’s the problem with [reasonable discourse] in an anarchist forum?
See, that’s what I mean.
I wrote “authoritarianism” and you ridicule and reframe it to “alarmist diversionary out-group think”. Just as I said:
at least one person shows up to invalidate your criticism, without really engaging with what you brought up, and that not by mere logical reasoning, but by applying an ideological believe that thrives for some sort of unity, and just pushes that believe with what ever logical fallacy suits at the moment best.
Yes that is what I did, to make you aware that you are doing pretty much the same thing.
It’s absolutely different. I criticize authoritarianism and you apply rhetoric manipulation such as ridiculing to make the criticism invalid, without actually engaging on the brought up argument/question.
That is not the same, it is contrary.
Please, with all your intent to lecture me, don’t forget you need that too…maybe first?
No you misunderstood. I used reframing as a way to make you aware that your original post can be pretty easily the understanding of the person you are criticizing as well.
I did not mean to say that you yourself have used reframing.
Edit: Look at what you did here. I literally felt that you were doing what you are complaining about here just to serve your own little turf war against what you call “authoritarians”. That wasn’t even the topic of that thread.