• thoughtcrime@lemmy.ml
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    4 years ago

    Amazing! Its such a wonderful time to be alive (and study biotech hehe), I am super optimistic about what we as an species can accomplish

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    mods, how come this post has several deleted comments? could we at least have a specific reason for deletion? here’s a few options for vaccine-related topics:

    1. comment was anti-vax, and everybody (most people online) hates anti-vax, often including mods
    2. comment makes bald claims and posts second-rate evidence (like scientific magazine articles instead of research papers)
    3. provocative behavior, inappropriate slang etc.

    on such heated topics the reason must be stated, otherwise you will lose your subscribers.

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            the reasons are cryptic. but you are basing your end of the discussion on .com web sites and magazines. this is not a proper way to claim evidence. you should be asking yourself, how can the other side reproduce, or follow your arguments, and provide links to support every important point you make.

            half of medicine is a pseudoscience: you can’t reproduce many of the researches, due to the undisclosed data or proprietary recipes, and medical scientists often have a very vague idea of how to do statistical analysis (medical test paradox as explained here, changing data acquisition protocols, lack of transparency of how the data was collected and operated, and many more). that doesn’t mean, though, that magazines, a middle man, are a good place to refer to when arguing about it. others will support your discussion if they are worth talking to.

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                this (lemmy.ml) is a face instance, censorship is expected here (and skeptically frowned upon). admins ban on face instances quite aggressively. my point being, ideas are easier to silence than evidence. but then, isn’t that the point of evidence. in that case, I would’ve been on your side without discussing this.

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      Sure - medical personnel around the world killed millions of people just to make a campaign for a vaccine because other therapy would be too cheap. Sounds totally plausible. They wouldn’t make that “incredibly effective” therapy more expensive instead because that’s not how free market works and higher demand doesn’t increase price.

      Also that’s not what the article was about - it was about using similar technology for malaria infection prevention as is used by some of covid vaccines.

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          Yes it can be cured. With a vaccine. that’s why many different countries are pouring millions of dollars into this effort. Are you saying you don’t believe these vaccines are actually effective?

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              Can you please stop posting completely not Malaria vaccine related stuff in this thread?

              Furthermore posting some highly speculative scientific literature now does not absolve you from posting mostly unscientific and long debunked stuff earlier (the messages that got deleted by the moderator).

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      Wait a second… you think that each individual country’s efforts ( China, Russia, US, Cuba ) to create their own vaccines, are each “scams” by each of those country’s medical professionals?

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          Yes, you can check the modlog, we don’t allow anti-vaxx like conspiracy theorists here. Answer the question above, if covid is “cured”, then why are all these countries separately developing vaccines?

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            4 years ago

            From Lemmy’s code of conduct:

            • “Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every design or implementation choice carries a trade-off and numerous costs. There is seldom a right answer.”

            Apparently this doesn’t apply for the Admin.

            • “We will exclude you from interaction if you insult, demean or harass anyone. That is not welcome behavior. We interpret the term “harassment” as including the definition in the Citizen Code of Conduct; if you have any lack of clarity about what might be included in that concept, please read their definition. In particular, we don’t tolerate behavior that excludes people in socially marginalized groups.”

            So calling someone a “conspiracy nerd” isn’t considered a insult?

            I’m not saying that I agree or disagree with @disrooter but this kind of censorship is very dangerous. If you don’t agree to someone, isn’t that why the down-vote button is there?