I used to watch DT on youtube because he covered open source stuff until I ran into one of his videos where he exposed he was an asshat when he went off about how “broken people” are trying to inject ethics into foss with the ethical software movement.
ughh we need people like him that dont suck doing the kind of thing you describe
This is the video that made me unsubscribe from him, I don’t actually know that much about the ethical software movement but even if he was right the philosophical framing he applies to the whole conversation is really problematic.
Thanks for digging up the link, never heard of him. I actually watched all 11 minutes of that to see if he gave any actual examples of ethical software projects or advocates but just a lot of name calling and comparing infringement of software freedom to the persecution of jesus.
I mean I did watch that video but I don’t really remember it.
TBH I do not care about people’s political opinion as long as what they say is useful to me…
Regarding ethical software, a quote from good ol’ Stallman:
A condition against torture would not work, because enforcement of any free software license is done through the state. A state that wants to carry out torture will ignore the license. When victims of US torture try suing the US government, courts dismiss the cases on the grounds that their treatment is a national security secret. If a software developer tried to sue the US government for using a program for torture against the conditions of its license, that suit would be dismissed too. In general, states are clever at making legal excuses for whatever terrible things they want to do. Businesses with powerful lobbies can do it too.
Honestly there is a discussion to have here, especially about how much of substance “good ol’ Stallman” really has to say in the realm of ethics based upon his behavior but my comments where about DT and the above video.
Yeah that was just a side note. But ignoring ethics, he got the practicality right: if someone’s evil enough to torture people, then a software license is probably not going to prevent them from doing it.
Also, the vast majority of proprietary software licenses include causes against redistributing and using the software to commit crimes. Did it help? I don’t think so
Yah I mean thats fair. I just think again DT makes such a shitty point out of this in the linked video. I mean look at the damn comments and all the toxic waste of human beings it brings out of the wood work who are like “yah DT, this is why I love you!”.
I used to watch DT on youtube because he covered open source stuff until I ran into one of his videos where he exposed he was an asshat when he went off about how “broken people” are trying to inject ethics into foss with the ethical software movement.
ughh we need people like him that dont suck doing the kind of thing you describe
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This is the video that made me unsubscribe from him, I don’t actually know that much about the ethical software movement but even if he was right the philosophical framing he applies to the whole conversation is really problematic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQW2iOwwMsE
Thanks for digging up the link, never heard of him. I actually watched all 11 minutes of that to see if he gave any actual examples of ethical software projects or advocates but just a lot of name calling and comparing infringement of software freedom to the persecution of jesus.
https://invidious.tube/watch?v=wQW2iOwwMsE
The ethical software movement is still pretty dumb tbh
I mean whether it is or it isn’t, DT used it as a pretext to trot out his dumpster views
I mean I did watch that video but I don’t really remember it.
TBH I do not care about people’s political opinion as long as what they say is useful to me…
Regarding ethical software, a quote from good ol’ Stallman:
Honestly there is a discussion to have here, especially about how much of substance “good ol’ Stallman” really has to say in the realm of ethics based upon his behavior but my comments where about DT and the above video.
If you wanna talk about that, watch the video.
Yeah that was just a side note. But ignoring ethics, he got the practicality right: if someone’s evil enough to torture people, then a software license is probably not going to prevent them from doing it.
Also, the vast majority of proprietary software licenses include causes against redistributing and using the software to commit crimes. Did it help? I don’t think so
Yah I mean thats fair. I just think again DT makes such a shitty point out of this in the linked video. I mean look at the damn comments and all the toxic waste of human beings it brings out of the wood work who are like “yah DT, this is why I love you!”.
Its not a cute look.