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Nothing to worry about here, they’ll probably go at night.
Doesn’t that just increase the number of stars they need to dodge?
That’s why they choose a cloudy night
how is that possible, clouds are even harder to dodge
It’s ok, you can just go through them if u have a pointy nose
This one will be tougher to land on.
And hotter, unless they go at night
They’ll have to time that right
With foresight
They can also land when it’s cloudy
It is a bright idea but I don’t think it’s the right bright
Still waiting for them to launch a mission to get rid of the caste system
If the US can go to space while issuing drone strikes on civilians, if Russia can go to space while invading countries, I don’t see why India can’t go to space while still being backwards about the caste system. Also it’s not like the government endorses the caste system, unlike the aforementioned examples.
Whataboutism bs. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
whataboutism /ˌwɒtəˈbaʊtɪz(ə)m/ noun the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counter-accusation or raising a different issue.
Yeah but I didn’t see anyone complaining when NASA Artemis was announced? Everyone rejoiced NASA’s return to space. So why the double standard towards India? Credit where credit is due don’t you think?
Also what’s the caste system has anything to do with the Indian government? How do you think the government has enforced it? What do you think the government should do instead? I am not Indian mind you, but I am sick of these holier than thou attitude of westerners.
Everyone rejoiced NASA’s return to space
not me but whatever.
Credit is definitely due and this is an amazing feat by India.
I haven’t bothered to discuss the other topic. Is there even any point when US issues are always on the front page here? I probably know more about US politics than my own country at this point.
Though of course you could also go there and take a jab at Americans. Let me know when you do so I can give you some support.
I haven’t bothered to discuss the other topic.
Exactly. Verdict issued yet you haven’t still thought about it? You haven’t bothered. Yet you’ve already decided that the government is responsible. Otherwise it wouldn’t constitute a “whataboutism”. There are many cases of “a Texas man doing this and a Florida man doing that” but nobody has blamed the government for these.
Whatever your reasons, that was whataboutism.
Expecting others to know what goes on in NASA discussions is moronic at best. That’s not the topic we are in. You didn’t even link it or reference it.
The Indian caste system is a humanitarian crisis. Would you rather westerners ignore it? There’s just no winning then, is there?
Expecting others to know what goes on in NASA discussions is moronic at best.
So people haven’t criticized NASA because they don’t know what NASA does. Yet suddenly everyone, including you has opinions about India’s space program. I thought NASA had a much bigger space program. And I am the moron to point out the double standard? This is exactly what I was talking about, the “holier than thou” attitude.
Whatever your reasons, that was whataboutism.
You haven’t still answered how you think the Indian government is responsible for the caste system. Shouldn’t that be resolved first? If you can’t say if the claim itself is even true, how is it whataboutism?
I hate the term whataboutism
It’s OK to point out hypocrisy. In fact, I think it should be forefront on everyone’s mind when your government is criticizing some other government for things they do themselves
In the case of one government criticizing another it’s definitely fair to point out hypocrisy. The problem is that in most cases it’s used to avoid discussion on a topic by changing the subject of the debate.
That said, it is also fair to say that the first comment kind of shoehorned in the caste system on a topic that had nothing to do with it.
How is that related to the space mission? Or are we trying to make this look like a Reddit comment section now? It’s an issue in India but that’s not relevant to their accomplishments in space exploration now is it?
It is when so much of their population struggles in poverty 🙃
Over 40 million Americans are living below the poverty line (12 million of those are children), that’s 12% of the population of the country. To compare and contrast India’s got 150 million people living below the poverty line with a population of 1.4 billion, that’s 10% of their population. Yet we spend $33 billion on our space program. For those playing at home India’s moon landing cost around $75 million.
To pull the poverty card on India for starting a space program that is lifting up their people’s national self worth is just about the most imperialist thing you could do.
I swear I see some shit like that in every comment section for posts mentioning India. I don’t know why people can’t be negative about everything and celebrate the accomplishments without mentioning the flaws of the country. I assume the previous guys are trolling or just dislike India.
Ooh spicy take - miss me with the “we” shit, I’m not American thank god.
I’ve been to India, have you? It’s fucked that you value “national self worth” over actual material realities. National self worth doesn’t mean shit when you’ve got homeless people shoving their impoverished baby in your face while standing outside one of the most lavish hotels you’ve ever seen trying to get a rupee so they can eat with a government riddled with actual fascists at the helm.
America can waste $1T a year on military funding because of its imperialist past and driving it’s imperialist present to secure it’s imperialist future at the expense of the global south yet I’m the asshole for suggesting that there’s possibly more important things to address in India than a fucking space program which aims to, in your words, build NaTiOnAl SeLf WoRtH. Fat load of good that does the homeless and the hungry. Fuck outta here with your STEM-lord white knighting bullshit and get a grip on the biggest problems affected us regardless of lines on a map.
The answer certainly won’t be found on the dark side of the moon.
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That’s the spirit, lick the boot homie. Next you’ll say Modi is a good leader
Lol I am a US citizen and have lived here for 95% of my life, keep coping with your endless hatred with no statistical basis. I don’t pay attention to Indian politics because that shit is a mess. I just dislike people pulling numbers of out their ass if they can’t provide a research paper or article from a reputable research institution to support their claims. Give me a source for your claims, I am willing to read it. Show me proof that Indias situation is worse than other countries. I attend a university in a place full homeless students due to an incredibly high cost of living in California. Tell me how much the Brits stole from India which led to that whole situation. If you can’t provide a source from an accredited academic institution (literally 99% of non-profit unis), then I am not willing to listen nor debate with people that stay willfully ignorant.
Even though I couldn’t find any connection between a space mission to sun and casteism, I could assure you friend the latter is much difficult to solve. That’s why countries still struggle with casteism or racism or sexism or some other evil-ism, but we shouldn’t let it hold us back from the technical and scientific advancements. In fact one could argue building a science oriented society is the way to eradicate these issues.
Yeah, I love it when people act like America doesn’t have a fucking caste system. As though there weren’t millions of Americans who voted for a rich guy who planned to build a wall to keep the “illegals” out of the country. And there wasn’t a massive lobbyist effort by multi-billion dollar companies and oligarchs to kill unemployment benefits in order to push people back into shitty service jobs that pay peanuts.
whatever or whoever they land on the sun will no longer be in any system, so maybe this is the first step?
I mean if anything for sure it will be in a system, the solar system. Not in original form though…
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HHGTG covered this. They’ll simply put the lower classes on a space ark
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LOL. This is clearly how to tell
“I’m jealous of another country achieving something better than my country”
without actually telling
“I’m jealous of another country achieving something better than my country”
I’ll be jealous of india once they get rid of all their billionares and feed the poor instead
Well you can say that for literally any country 😂
Don’t feed the troll, look at their comment history.
Agree. Thanks.
Lol, im sorry but there’s nothing to be jealous of India. Im happy they accomplished the landing in the moon, but they have a lot problems that they need to solve in their country.
I don’t disagree that they have problems to solve. But the kind of negativity these comments point out of pure jealousy. Let’s just celebrate achievements in the field of science and tech whichever country it is. No country is perfect.
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One can mention the problems a country have without being racist/disliking a country. All countries have problems. If I mention the United atates have a problem with ignorancy, racism, between other problems, would that be considered racism?
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I 100% would. Americans are idiots. I am mention it now, and the post is not even about them.
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Very interesting. Solar probes and low budgets usually don’t go together. That’s a lot of deceleration.
I usually only thought about slingshotting to speed up, I’d never considered slowing down past that one scene in The Martian. Can you elaborate further?
There are 2 ways to go sunward. You can shed speed to reduce orbital distance, but 30 km/s is a lot of velocity to change. Or you use another body (often antisunward) and a slingshot to put the craft in a highly eccentric orbit that, at times, is near the sun - so you have many proximal destinations you have to hit without error to meet your course. A mars transfer is easier but you want to hit certain proximity windows.
From my knowledge in KSP, in a nutshell if you pass by a large gravitational mass on one side you’ll speed up, but if you pass on the other side you’ll slow down. Throw in an engine burn across the periapse (closest point) and you’ll amplify that much more.
Combining gravity assists and the oberth effect is great
After the sun, we go to Sagittarius A*
At this pace, India will have the observable universe perfectly charted by year’s end.
No rest until a probe can shake Vishnu’s hand(s)
Going for the tech victory, classic
Wonderful. I hear the weather there is always sunny.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The latest mission in India’s ambitious space program has blasted off on a voyage towards the centre of the solar system, a week after the country’s successful unmanned moon landing.
“Launch successful, all normal,” an Indian Space Research Organisation official announced from mission control as the vessel made its way to the upper reaches of the Earth’s atmosphere.
Raychaudhury said the mission probe would study coronal mass ejections, a periodic phenomenon that sees huge discharges of plasma and magnetic energy from the sun’s atmosphere.
Aditya is travelling on the ISRO-designed, 320-tonne PSLV XL rocket that has been a mainstay of the Indian space program, powering earlier launches to the moon and Mars.
The South Asian nation has a comparatively low-budget space program, but one that has grown considerably in size and momentum since it first sent a probe to orbit the moon in 2008.
Experts say India can keep costs low by copying and adapting existing technology, and thanks to an abundance of highly skilled engineers who earn a fraction of their foreign counterparts’ wages.
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Do you want to kill Cillian Murphy? Because this is how you kill Cillian Murphy.
Man the first two acts of that movie are one of the best scifi stories I’ve ever seen and the third act of that movie is one of the worst slasher films I’ve ever seen
busy week huh
They don’t rest on their laurels, do they?
SpaceX and Daddy Elon isn’t happy.
Elon
Who carez
He’s incapable of being happy. That’s why he keeps taking other people’s toys and breaking them.
I’d be happy to have him board the rocket to the Sun.
I wonder if there’s beer on the sun.
ITT: Triggered americans.
Whats the goal?
