Seriously though, the USA is virtually always bad.

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    We are taking about good and bad, and whether it was bad or good that Russia invaded. Those are moral questions. So yes, we can ask whether the actions of a nation are moral.

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      No we are not. You are talking about good and bad because that’s the level you engage with politics.

      I say it’s asenine to attribute moral character to the citizens of a nation of millions unless you’re really prepared to have your glass house targetted.

      Are Americans guilty of its crimes? Should people consider Americans immoral because of all the genocides, slavery, and ongoing mass incarcerations?

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        Are Americans guilty of its crimes? Should people consider Americans immoral because of all the genocides, slavery, and ongoing mass incarcerations?

        Are you incapable of comparing things? Yes the US has problems. I and others are working to fix them. That doesn’t mean morality is worseless.

        • Applying a moral judgement to millions of people based on the actions of their government is silly.

          If you insist otherwise I’m going to start applying the same standard to you for the crimes of the ameri-anglo empire.

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      we can ask whether the actions of a nation are moral.

      Well, if we have to speak this way, Russia’s position is the more defensible position. I sympathize for the people of Ukraine and want the war over.

      The best thing the Ukrainian government could do is make peace and let the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics join Russia, since that’s what its citizens want.

      If you think that’s unacceptable, then the US should return Texas to Mexico before it has a right to speak on this.