Glad it was unmanned. There’s enough senseless death in the world.
If you take a look at the lunar missions for space race, you’ll see many of them happened within a year of each other. It’s a wonder there weren’t more failures!
Compare that to today, where it took almost 20 years of planning for the Hubble telescope to come into fruition.
You shouldn’t rush things in space. This is just the latest reminder.
Don’t you think that the fact that the mission was unmanned meant that they knew that they’re not ready for manned ones yet? So nobody was rushing, as you put it.
Crewed vs uncrewed is a decision made at the very beginning of the planning stages, years ago. These days a crew is just a gigantic extra expense on a mission with little return. Remotely operated missions can achieve all their scientific objectives.
Manned lunar lander is a mich complex piece of technology which needs to be developed from scratch. It also needs a much more powerful rocket which Russia don’t have either. It’s at least a decade of extra R&D time even if they get all the funding they need and magically get rid of corruption (which obviously won’t happen).
It’s unmanned not because they chose it but because they are literally incapable of making a manned mission (at the very least for a couple of generations).
It’s not that deep, it’s Russia and the Russians are fascist morons to the very core of their society, riven through from fsb to science, always have been, always will be
Glad it was unmanned. There’s enough senseless death in the world.
If you take a look at the lunar missions for space race, you’ll see many of them happened within a year of each other. It’s a wonder there weren’t more failures!
Compare that to today, where it took almost 20 years of planning for the Hubble telescope to come into fruition.
You shouldn’t rush things in space. This is just the latest reminder.
Technically, the death would have been off-world.
Don’t you think that the fact that the mission was unmanned meant that they knew that they’re not ready for manned ones yet? So nobody was rushing, as you put it.
Crewed vs uncrewed is a decision made at the very beginning of the planning stages, years ago. These days a crew is just a gigantic extra expense on a mission with little return. Remotely operated missions can achieve all their scientific objectives.
Manned lunar lander is a mich complex piece of technology which needs to be developed from scratch. It also needs a much more powerful rocket which Russia don’t have either. It’s at least a decade of extra R&D time even if they get all the funding they need and magically get rid of corruption (which obviously won’t happen).
It’s unmanned not because they chose it but because they are literally incapable of making a manned mission (at the very least for a couple of generations).
What? It clearly states in the article they knew it was risky… I would consider that rushing.
Sure, but it’s not rushing as in “let’s skip steps of the plan for the sake of time,” like it happened with, say, oceangate. It was a calculated risk.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/20/world/luna-25-spacecraft-moon-collision-intl/index.html
We’ve just had more information come out, and it appears you’re right about the rushing! I’ll eat crow on that
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It’s not that deep, it’s Russia and the Russians are fascist morons to the very core of their society, riven through from fsb to science, always have been, always will be
I’m trying to have a discussion about innovation in space, something that goes beyond Russia, and has a clear history.
Sorry I didn’t bag on Russia enough, I thought you guys were doing a good enough job of that already without me
Nah this is not true and is frankly pretty racist. There are many and have been many brilliant and amazing Russians who love freedom and progress.
They are all either dead, in prison or outside Russia, but there’s a lot of them!
You realise the first human made object to land on the moon was Russian?