For me it’s been like a splash of cold water to the face, remembering just how fucked up 
tier liberal takes were, are, and will likely continue to be.
I’m sure there’s downsides to complacency, but it was nice having some ground assumptions when going into a thread, like “society can and should be improved somewhat” or “the ruling class acts in its own immediate self interests and any other claims regarding their motivations are propagandized lies” or “climate change is real, it’s bad, and it’s getting worse,” or more trivial stuff like “Tesla cars aren’t good.”
I’m sure potential comrades are out there and while it really is necessary to reach out to more people at some point (offline too, orgs especially, but while we’re here, you know?), it’s been sobering to realize just how far rightward mainstream “progressive” liberal thought really is on average. 
i saw someone call someone “good sir” unironically. i thought that was just one of our jokes and people stopped doing that in like 2014, but no redditors are still cringe as fuck
but it has been very nice seeing people ask in good(ish) faith about things i thought were obvious and seeing comrades answer with honest, accessible, well thought-out explanations of theory and its applications. sometimes looooong explanations lol.
I think its been fun tbh, dunking and educating, but then again i appreciate that i haven’t been on the front lines of the posting war the same way that some comrades have
How many straight up fascists can hide comfortably with liberals in plain sight without any of their neighbors noticing.
Getting real tired of the most lazy lolbertarian arguments that haven’t been in vogue since 2007.
HOW WILL PEOPLE HAVE HOUSES IF NOBODY OWNS THE HOUSES AND RENTS THEM? IT’S UMPOSSIBLE!
Read a fucking book. Just fucking one. Goddamn. It’s like a Young Republicans meeting found out about lemmy. This is the exact kind of sophomoric college debate club shit I grew out of 15 years ago. YOU’RE ON THE INTERNET. THE SEARCH ENGINE IS RIGHT THERE. SPEND 10 MINS LOOKING SHIT UP.
Read a fucking book. Just fucking one.
They read Harry Potter and Ready Player One. What more could you ask for?
That person today just really couldn’t take the L.
What blew my mind is they took everything individually rather than seeing the class critique.
Mainly I’ve noticed that most of the comments on /c/Risa are from hexbears.
I see no issues there.
I’ve felt that too. I can’t stand reddit debate nerd shit. But, having never used reddit, I’ve had fun pushing back on the reddit libs shoulder to shoulder with fellow hexbears and other lemmy comrades.
So there’s an aspect of this I’ve found myself enjoying/invigorated by. But, i might get over it, and i can understand it already feeling old to people who’ve already been through it before.
I do hope that within hexbear their will still be a place to have actual discussions amoung leftists who have disagreements whithout being derailed by libs, who don’t share any of our common understandings.
Even the argument style of such liberals is quaint to the point of exhausting sometimes, but there’s nothing I can do about it. Calling out how stale and laughably false their bullshit is doesn’t stop them from continuing to smear it everywhere.
Yeah, i tend to just use mockery, since i find that quaint nerd shit silly and hilarious. I hope that they can learn to laugh at themselves instead of taking arguing with people so seriously as to use such an exasperating and bizarre style of interacting with people online. And if they don’t learn that, they deserve to be mocked even more lol
that guy is the worst. Terminal reddit brain
i crossed paths with the fallacy guy
i think defederation should be removed as a feature, and that we should forcibly federate every instance and drive these fuckers from our lands. this pussyfooting around with civility and rules based interactions are an exercise in futility because most of these people are programmed to respond in bad faith when ideologically challenged and would not show us anywhere near the amount of courtesy we have shown them had the shoe been on the other foot with respect to posting power (which is kind of how we ended up here in the first place). there is no baseline of respect on their end to work from and likely negative will to work towards even a minimally balanced mode of discourse because they are a bunch of terminally main character brained metropole dwellers who see us as npcs to be punched down upon.
stalin stopped at berlin, we should not make the same mistake.
I just finished reading through the third Admin post on Blahaj.zone, and reading through all the shit takes towards Hexbear has me real sad.
You’ve articulated my thoughts better than I could right now.
At first the mod log had me like
Now it has me like
I’m really happy you federated, because it helped me find you. I’m sorry it’s been stressful and dramatic, but I’m hopeful it’ll even it soon and that enough good comes of it to make the effort worth it.
Thanks for being here. ❤️
We all had to find Hexbear somehow.
I already got banned from one of the comms I was interested in posting in so I’d say it’s not going great? Finding out the memes of the fediverse were dogshit was also a bummer but not surprising in hindsight. I did like the sigmarxism reddit so I’m glad lemmygrad has one though
The liberals coming here and/or complaining about us is good content, but other than that very little has been gained. I’ve had a lemmygrad account for a while and none of the other instances are any good, so federation is pretty useless. It’s nice that lemmygradians can comment here now, and it seems like there are a couple hobbyist instances/comms that people are enjoying.
For me it’s been good overall, though I tend to ignore the bad cases who wander in. Despite the few trolls/libs/reactionaries, there are some cool new people who’ve been interacting here and it’s also nice to be exposed to new communities on other instances for topics that interest me.
I’m glad to hear that. I should look out for more examples of what you’ve been seeing.
We have to interact with people outside our little comm at some point if we don’t want it to die a slow death of attrition. Many, maybe even most people will be unreachable, but we were able to cultivate a sizable userbase back on Reddit just by being uncompromisingly left and very active. There’s for sure a lot of trash on Lemmy, but it’s not worse than Reddit, and I think ultimately, we will get new comrades out of this.
I respectfully disagree. The site culture pre-federation was unlike anything else, anywhere else. There was no other trough for that brand of slop. We wouldn’t have died, but it just wouldn’t grow very fast or change very much over the years. We have still, fortunately, maintained most of that site culture, but it will never be as chill and friendly as it was. So far it’s been fine, but none of the other sites (sans Lemmygrad) have basically anything interesting to say that isn’t just said on Reddit or 4chan.
I think some of the more interesting users are somewhat invisible because they’re setting up here and using hexbear as their home instance. I’ve seen a lot of new usernames in the past week.
Hooking up w Lemmygrad feels like peanut butter and jelly
The rest of it I can take or leave, like yeah it’s funny watching libs get dunked on for their brain dead takes but I also feel a piece of my brain die when I am forced to read one
Outside of the horrified
s, I feel like federation brought the average user age down by like 15 years.Endless tears about losing another site to terminal Redditism. I’m not reading your fucking your fucking sidebar rules.
Your fucking your.
I can’t read or type anymore. Toooooom any tears obscuring my vission.
