I rewatched this video for the first time in a while today. There were some pretty good comments NGL.
Wonder what happened to this person. Did they just dissipate into the liberal miasma and decide to never go online again or did they maybe wake the fuck up after realizing that biden has done nothing different?
Maybe they are on Hexbear now?
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They feel more like the blahaj type honestly lol
i hate that theyre ruining the blahaj for everyone else, blahaj is a comrade
I thought the other day how this person would react if they found out they’re an emote on this site that has been used daily for years now. That must be a trip and a half.
We will remove it if she comes on here and denounces liberalism.
Someone asked before and I swear someone said that they’ve since reformed somewhat which is good.
I remember reading they did th video ironically and after it blew up they did the sensible thing and disappeared from the surface of the earth. Just a hazy memory but kind of unsettling to consider
I’ve never seen the source video. You darn kids move too fast for old man Dick, over here.
It’s as over the top as we make is seem.
So much so I am not convinced it’s not a bit.
There’s no way this is real.
oh it was very sincere I assure you
I liked Vine but I don’t like what Vine did to the way people talk
It’s cringe HOF.
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They took the original down after getting completely do piled, honestly I don’t even know how to search it anymore. You used to be able to pull it up googling “ok sport ok champ” but that doesn’t work anymore because Google now sucks lol
I tried “ok sport ok champ” (Page of results about Oklahoma football)
“Ok sport ok champ -oklahoma -football” (Literally the exact same results)
This goes deeper than SEO, Google just isn’t trying at all anymore.
searching “maybe later kiddo” worked for me
It’s frustrating when I have exact quotes for things and it still gives ads or inaccurate results.
I tried to look up the spelling for Chaise Lounge, and had to do a whole lotta backtracking
Truly what the fuck is going on no search engines work anymore I don’t know how to find information
I feel this lol. I’m an elder millennial with a bunch of zoomer friends and don’t know what they are saying half the time.
I’m a Gen Xer.
No one writes articles about us, but the trade off is I have a basic understanding of how to fix common appliances.
Knowing how to fix things is overrated. My oven went out and I learned how to use a multimeter to diagnose it only to find out that it was the discontinued control board which costs as much as a brand new god damn oven.
I hate American appliances, just make one god damn oven and don’t discontinue the parts.
This, I understand. Having issues with a TV with the same outcome: no parts.
I’d take that over literally being single-handedly responsible for ruining every industry in the west. I can fix some appliances with the help of YouTube at least.
I have no love for my generation, but you think we’re worse than boomers? Not looking to argue but I always thought our worst trait was indifference. Not that indifference isn’t terrible.
Tbf I was probably lumped in as an Xer for a while until Millennial became the buzzword. I was born right on the line. I have caught people my age(my twin brother included) removed about millennials. I don’t think X is worse than boomers but I know a few Xers that I wouldn’t miss if they got disappeared. Some of them really like to disregard the actual struggles of Millennials and it sucks. But yeah, TheLepidopterists was right, I was making a joke about us ruining the Applebee’s industry or whatever lol.
Sorry. I didn’t get the joke. But that’s because I’m pretty slow.
Nah man, no worries, lol.
I think that was a joke about “Millennials are ruining XYZ industry”
thank you for being careful to capitalize Dick there
maybe we can talk about it later, kiddo
talks about it later
stfu tankie 🤣🤣
talks about it later
“OH MY GOD, WHATABOUTISM!”
Tbh I wish we’d forget about them. Some random person did something cringe years ago. Who cares, let it go.
It’s the embodiment of
thoughThey’re also a real person. There should be a statute of limitations on this shit, they don’t deserve to be known for it forever.
Thems the breaks
I think it’s not too bad to keep the emote but nobody should go around trying to find out their name or repeating it if they do know it
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I still kind of believe that it was a bit video
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Yeah that sentiment seems to be pretty common within even self proclaimed progressive circles.
Hey, I’m happy to get dunked on here - but whats actually wrong with her video? I upsettingly voted for Biden because it was a vote against fascist. Do ya’ll considered that dumb?
Edit: thanks for the good question. I’m firing at the hip here and not editing this a lot because I’m a little drunk, but the following may explain it a bit I hope.
The act of voting itself is by almost any measure inconsequential. We don’t really care if you as an individual do or don’t vote in presidential elections. What we take issue with is the presentation that voting is the primary, only, or most important form of political participation. You’re not going to stop our descent into fascism by voting for neo-libs because they’re going to keep fanning the flames of material conditions and contradictions that drive people to adopt fascist ideology. Every single election is presented as the ultimate struggle against fascism and we just HAVE to put up with the center-right corporate shill one more time to prevent the fascists from gaining power - but please ignore the fact that they keep winning and growing in influence anyway. Definitely don’t get any ideas about doing anything besides voting, that would hurt the bottom line. Show up and crank the lever legitimizing your own oppression and be happy for the opportunity.
Our derision about all this comes from the kafkaesque absurdity of that cycle and inability of people
obsessed from seeing the futility in it all. Stopping fascism is going to require more, and the emphasis on voting as the only option intentionally obscures those other solutions. It gives the false impression of doing something, which arguably is maybe worse than doing nothing at all. All the energy and time that could go into more effective political action is instead poured into ineffectual voting campaigns that only serve to reinforce the status quo (which, again, is a steady slide towards reactionary positions.) The atomic unit of propaganda is emphasis, thus SO much attention is given to voting and that crowds out real solutions that actually work from public consideration.Plus, it doesn’t even make sense, truly. If Donald Trump is an actual fascist that is seeking to enact genocide, war crimes, and general human rights abuses beyond imagination… Shouldn’t we be handling this a little more ahem permanently?
If the liberals in power were serious about their own rhetoric, they should be doing a hell of a lot more to “protect democracy” than riling up the base with scary language every four years. Truth is they don’t believe their own story, they think they can keep getting away with trotting out war-criminals and debt hounds and forcing us to accept it because the opposition is somehow worse. They’re not wrong about the opposition being immediately worse, they’re just wrong about being able to get away with it forever. Their own ghoulish policies feed the forces of greater fascism, and this grift only works until the fascists actually DO seize power, and then they’ll kill the liberals and communists alike. We shouldn’t wait around for that to happen, so part of that means getting over our religious devotion to voting as our primary understanding of political participation.I absolutely disagree with the idea that voting fixes everything and it should be the sole focus. And I dont think its going to stop fascism, just slow it down (maybe). But it takes little effort for me to vote, so why not?
And I do really think Trump is a fascist and is enabling fascist. My neighbors are fascists. My community is filled with fascist. I make friends where I can and I own guns and ammo. I do what I can. But voting? Its this small thing that takes a little bit of time that might help out.
And I do think there is a less noticed benefit of campaigns. Like when Bernie ran and brought “Medicare for all” to light. We had a large shift in the US of people wanting something different. If a revolution is ever going to happen, we need that overton window to shift further to the left.
Yeah, again, it’s all well and good to go out and vote if it’s easy. It’s (intentionally) not for everyone, though, and it’s (definitely) not the solution we really need. We parody and lampoon the vote fetishists and liberal conception of the activity, those who use it as a self-actualizing process and believe in it whole-cloth, not folks like you trying to do any bit that might help. There’s people who think they’re good people and doing their part showing up to crank the blue lever every four years, all while the climate burns, women’s and lgbtq and minority rights are stripped away, and warmongerers kill and maim millions for profit. They are complicit in their indifference, and the lie that #
ing is enough keeps them in that comfortable state of inaction. Showing disdain and mocking what they consider holy is a strategic move to shake them from that complacency. You don’t need to make the opposite mistake and feel bad about voting, though. As long as you understand how little it matters and don’t propogate the myth around it and are organizing in more meaningful ways, then you’re doing absolutely nothing wrong.Now, one could make an argument that participation in voting at all lends the veneer of legitimacy to the system, but that’s a bit less cut and dry than the criticisms of liberal voting and their attitudes about it.
I understand what you’re saying. I think I just got some lib brainworms. Even though I know voting means so little, I think its the right move to vote.
And yeah, I get all the way the system isn’t legitimate. It is what it is. I can participate while advocating for its change.
Don’t worry, we shall tear them out with careful application of patient explanation and relentless dunking
This bear eats worms.
This bear eats worms.
New site tag line?
When I’m less drunk I’ll come type up a constructive critique of the “I think it’s the right move” position. I have more I could expound upon regarding that legitimacy matter.
I’ll be happy to hear it.
And I think I get the legitimacy matter. Between the two party system, winner takes all, electoral college, lobbyist, the money needed to run, massive campaign donations, gerrymandering, voting intimidation, and… shit… probably a lot more that I’m blanking on. There just a lot of bullshit in the US voting system.
i voted biden, but to act like voting protects us from fascism is silly. it certainly isnt stopping my trans sibs from getting genocided in florida. if i were president id declare them a secessionist for flagrant violations of federal law and crimes against humanity, disband their legislature, roll in the tanks, and finish the reconstruction the radical republicans wanted after the civil war. this hasnt happened with biden.
what does protect us against violence, and really the only way to guarantee your safety as an individual, is inclusive union power. plenty of unions have stopped work to prevent deportations and racist violence in the past, and frankly these inclusive unions were pivotal in passing any civil rights in america whatsoever.
if i were president id declare them a secessionist for flagrant violations of federal law and crimes against humanity, disband their legislature, roll in the tanks, and finish the reconstruction the radical republicans wanted after the civil war
As a Floridian, please someone invade and disband our legislature. We can’t be trusted with one.
Lol I wish we had a president that badass. Best we are gonna get is a capitalist who wears a pride pin for one month outta the year.
I don’t consider it dumb, we don’t universally dunk on voting, but I think most of us would say it’s borderline meaningless. The end result of Biden’s time in office vs. Trump’s time in office thus far are almost indistinguishable. They both happily support the pursuit to bomb other countries, actively fuel and support overseas wars, attempt coups on foreign governments, blockade Cuba against the wishes of the entire UN, torture innocents in black bag sites, lock up children, imprison people en masse, watch millions suffer without actually reasonably helping, etc. Biden’s term in office has overseen a horrific reversal in abortion law and has directly made active efforts to limit the actions of unions, and so forth - that sounds not very distinct from fascism to me.
Main point of the post is “We’ll talk about it later” has been the general attitude from liberals to leftists since the beginning of time. We’re ALWAYS just averting a crisis right now and it turns out that right now is never the time to actually make constructive change.
Thanks for the answer. All your answers have been fairly consistent with not liking the “Let’s talk about that later”. And, yeah, I get how that’s peak lib.
And I dont disagree with anything you said in the first paragraph. I know Biden sucks. I just think he’s marginally better than Trump, which really means fuck all.
I’m a pro-voting Hexbear because:
- If you think it’s meaningless, it sure doesn’t hurt.
- There are usually some differences somewhere, especially at local levels (several Dem states have passed abortion rights laws, MN is doing a lot of other good state-level stuff).
- Libs will flatten any conversation to “why aren’t you voting???” if you tell them you aren’t. It’s just not productive, and saying you vote but it will never be enough defangs a lot of what they would otherwise say – at least lie about it!
We don’t dunk on good faith questions! None of us were born principled communists, we had to learn. It was through patient study, but much more importantly, patient teaching that we gained clearer perspectives on those kinds of questions. Thank you for asking!
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No actually that would be @CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml
Thanks for the answers too. I’m just wanting to understand a bit more. I think I agree with everyone on the end goals but how to get there is tough.
I think voting for evil is morally wrong no matter who the alternative is. So my moral opinion of you comes down to whether you think Joe Biden is evil. If you don’t, you’re probably just misinformed somewhere based on where you are now.
I think he sucks but he’s objectively better than the alternative
Did you intentionally avoid answering whether you think he’s evil?
Few would argue that Biden is worse than Trump. The question is whether Biden is worth your vote or not.
Lol am I walking into some trap if I say “he’s the lesser of two evils”?
If few argue that Biden is worse than Trump, what’s wrong with voting for that?
Well, it’s later now and we still aren’t “talking about it”, in fact we’re talking about it less than before. So did this plan work? Did you save America from fascism?
I dont think voting is going to fix everything. We need action outside of that. But voting still does something. And some democrats are pushing for ranked choice voting which is an avenue for more socialist in power through voting.
So yeah, I guess I disagree with the “lets talk about that later” but she was saying that during the voting phase. Its not like a revolution is going to manifest during that small time.
I feel that voting in national elections accomplishes next to nothing, so tabling discussions about important issues so that we can all
harder is a net negative.
