Top physicist says chatbots are just ‘glorified tape recorders’::Leading theoretical physicist Michio Kaku predicts quantum computers are far more important for solving mankind’s problems.

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    11 months ago

    That’s absolute nonsense. Physicists have to be excellent statisticians and, unlike data scientists, statisticians have to understand where the data is coming from, not just how to spit out simple summaries of enormously complex datasets as if it had any meaning without context.

    And his views are exactly in line with pretty much every expert who doesn’t have a financial stake in hyping the high tech magic 8-ball. On the Dangers of Stochastic Parrots.

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      I had that paper in mind when I said that. Doesn’t exhibit a very thorough understanding of how these models actually work.

      A common argument is that the human brain very well may work the exact same, ergo the common phrase, “I’m a stochastic parrot and so are you.”

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        11 months ago

        That’s a Sam Altman line and all it shows is that he does not know how knowledge is acquired, developed, or applied. He has no concept of how the world actually works and has likely never thought deeply about anything in his life beyond how to grift profitably. And he can’t afford to examine his (professed) beliefs because he’s trying to cash out on a doomed fantasy before too many people realise it is doomed.

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      11 months ago

      Okay but LLMs have multiplied my productivity far more than any tape recorder ever could or ever will. The statement is absolute nonsense.

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        11 months ago

        Do you imagine that music did not exist before we had the means to record it? Or that it had no effect on the productivity of musicians?

        Vinyl happened before tape but in the early days of computers, tape was what we used to save data and code. Kids TV programmes used to play computer tapes for you to record at home, distributing the code in an incredibly efficient way.

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        11 months ago

        Your statement and the original one can both be in sync with another.

        Microsoft Word is just a glorified notepad but it still improves my productivity significantly.

        And everyone will have different uses depending on their needs. Chatgpt has done nothing for my productivity/usually adds work as I have to double check all the nonsensical crap it gives me for example and then correct it.

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          11 months ago

          Those are all gross oversimplifications. By the same logic the internet is just a glorified telephone, the computer is a glorified abacus, the telephone is just a glorified messenger pigeon. There are lots of people who don’t understand LLMs and exaggerate its capabilities but dismissing it is also bad.

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          11 months ago

          I think describing word processors as glorified notepads would also be extremely misleading, to the extent that I would describe that statement as incorrect.

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      Nope. Biologists also use statistical models and also know where the data is coming from etc etc. They are not experts in AI. This Michio Kaku guy is more like the African American Science Guy to me, more concerned with being a celeb.

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        11 months ago

        Biologists are (often) excellent statisticians too, you’re correct. That’s why the most successful quants are biologists or physicists, despite not having trained in finance.

        They’re not experts in (the badly misnamed) AI. They’re experts in the statistical models AI uses. They know an awful lot more than the likes of Sam Altman and the AI-hypers. Because they’re trained specialists, not techbro grifters.